GRP will call for the total elimination of the U.S. military


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  • Hal Brown
    commented 2019-09-08 17:59:38 -0400
    I do not see this as a practical position but I feel a need to drastically reduce its impact both on the millions we kill with it as well as its detrimental contribution to our climate crisis. I’m strongly for a massive 50%-75% reduction in miltary funding. I also believe that VA benefits should not only be budgeted separately from the military budget but also before it.
    The military has historically both trained and employed thousands of people but now it seems to be more chronically disruptive and destructive. Having said that, the military is a tool that employs medical and legal professionals and technical and scientific people and construction workers and the list goes on much like that of the Romans in Life of Brian. This tool may currently be occupying sovereign nations but they. Could be returned home to do so many things including transforming our infrastructure to a green one and educating workers to run it.
    I disagree with the dissolution of it but feel we should work to use the tool for humanity as it has also been used historically.
    Among the changes needed are the restriction of executive control when invading other countries. We need to create a clear mission statement describing the use of the military. We need to donate our bases as improvements to localities we have occupied and probably a few apologies.
  • David Rolde
    commented 2019-07-09 17:21:09 -0400
    In response to Ellie Yarden. First there is no rule that statecom meeting facilitators cannot support proposals. We depend on input from all Statecom members into our decisions. Second I didn’t realize that you did not want to be quoted and that you would be offended. I apologize. I called you, and I thought you told me that you thought that the problem that would stand in the way of the proposal being adopted by GPUS would be that we should specifically state that that there should be funding for the dismantling of the military. Yes you did suggest that I withdraw the Statecom proposal and that we work on a proposal to GPUS Platform Committee. But my understanding is that proposals to GPUS Platform Committee may be submitted only by state parties or by national caucuses. You and I do not have standing as individuals to submit a proposal to GPUS Platform Committee. It needs to be submitted by GRP of MA. And I believe that only GRP Statecom (or a GRP State Convention) can authorize this. And the GPUS Platform proposal deadline might be past before the Fall GRP State Committee meeting. So this meeting is the only real chance to move forward on this in order for GPUS to consider a platform amendment. I thought we discussed this on the phone and I told you that I would accept your suggestion to include funding for dismantling the military into my proposal.
  • David Rolde
    commented 2019-07-09 17:11:35 -0400
    Thank you Danny Factor for agreeing to co-sponsor. I would still accept additional co-sponsors.
  • Charlene DiCalogero
    commented 2019-07-08 15:21:08 -0400
    In a perfect world, I’d support this proposal. A 50% or even 75% cut could be feasible, and I’d support it. It is unfortunately the case that we’d put ourselves and the rest of the world in immediate danger—i.e., more than we’re already in by having a bloated military—by cutting off all funding. I also think such a proposal needs to put effort and funding into nonviolent means of defense and resistance—a type of resistance requiring considerable strategy—such as Gene Sharp wrote about and advised many national movements to do around the world.
  • Charlene DiCalogero
    tagged this with Impractical 2019-07-08 15:21:07 -0400
  • Charlene DiCalogero
    commented 2019-07-08 15:15:37 -0400
    The Central Mass chapter opposed this proposal by consensus.
  • Joshua Gerloff
    commented 2019-07-08 00:18:42 -0400
    From Sharron Tetrault: SORRYCANNOT SUPPORT ANOTHER THING THAT MARGINALIZES GRP EVEN FURTHER. I’LL SUPPORT 50% – I CAN AT LEAST TALK SERIOUSLY WITH PEOPLE ABOUT THAT.
  • Danny Factor
    commented 2019-07-07 22:51:07 -0400
    I very much support this proposal. Please add me as a co-sponsor. There are a few amendments that I am inclined to propose that I would hope would be considered “friendly”. Regardless whether these amendments are adopted, I still support the proposal as is. My proposed amendments are: 1) In additrion to supporting the disolution of the U.S. military which should explicitly state that this includes the closing of all U.S. military bases worldwide, we also call for a ban on the U.S. production and sale of military weapons by all U.S. entities in the public and private sector, 2) The GRP also supports demilitarization on a worldwide basis, but as residents of the U.S. we feel a special responsibilitity to support demilitarization in the country in which we reside, especially given that it is by far the largest and most destructive military in the world. 3) The GRP is not opposed to the creation of a democratically created international armed force that would exist to intervene to disarm violent human rights abusers, but such a force may not be unduly influenced by any particular nation, nations, or other entity. . 4) As a state party in a top arms producing state, filled with memorials where we mourn victims of war, and in which reside many victims of war, we particularly support disolving the military industrial complex in Massachusetts including the closing of all military bases in the Commonwealth, a statewide ban on the production of military weapons, and the implementation of a peacebuilding curriculum in the Massachusetts public schools.

    I also want to say that The Green Party should never oppose a position because it is deemed “impractical”. Abolishing slavery, or allowing most people to vote were once considered to be just that. Our positions must reflect how to truly implement our values, detached from any dangerous pre-conceived notions like “this is the way things will always be.” If our party really has a unique role to play in the American political system, let’s not wait until someone else proposes this first. There are an infinite amount of bandwagons to jump on. Let’s instead build our own and then call on others to join us.
  • Danny Factor
    tagged this with Good 2019-07-07 22:51:06 -0400
  • Eileen Wheeler Sheehan
    commented 2019-07-07 18:03:45 -0400
    The intent is noble. End violence. However, the elimination of the US Military is not a sure way to accomplish this. Reducing the size and cost of the US military to one consistent with self-defense within our borders would be more acceptable to more peace-loving citizens.
  • Eileen Wheeler Sheehan
    tagged this with Impractical 2019-07-07 18:03:44 -0400
  • Elie Yarden
    commented 2019-07-04 23:34:24 -0400
    As co-facilitator, I will not be taking positions on proposals. But I find it especially objectionable to be selectively quoted out of context, I certainly said far more – ,mainly on the unlikelihood of being able to frame an amendment to the GPUS Platform at this time. I even offered to work on such a proposal if this one was withdrawn from the roster of the summer meeting. For the record.
  • David Rolde
    commented 2019-07-01 18:37:07 -0400
    I talked with Elie Yarden who suggested that the proposal needs to include support for funding for the process of dismantling the weapons. I am open to including that as a friendly amendment.
  • David Rolde
    tagged this with Important 2019-07-01 18:37:07 -0400
  • David Rolde
    tagged this with Good 2019-07-01 18:37:06 -0400
  • Jordan Stewart
    tagged this with Impractical 2019-06-27 20:49:37 -0400
  • Jordan Stewart
    tagged this with Good 2019-06-27 20:49:36 -0400
  • David Rolde
    commented 2019-06-16 22:35:01 -0400
    PROPOSAL

    Short title: Eliminate U.S. military

    Sponsor: David Rolde, seeking co-sponsors

    Note: This is an edited resubmission of a proposal that was submitted for Jan 2018 GRP Statecom meeting

    Seeking review and feedback from Platform Committee (if it can be reconvened), Legislative Committee, GRP Local Chapters, Membership & Diversity Committee (MDVR), Adcom, Statecom members

    Summary: This proposal is for the GRP to take a position in favor of totally eliminating the U.S. military, reducing U.S. military spending to zero, and banning the use of military force by the U.S. regime.

    Background: The U.S. military is a set of institutions that constitute a most violent and destructive curse against humanity and this planet. For over two centuries he U.S. military has engaged in genocidal bombings, invasions and occupations of numerous countries and has caused enormous human suffering, environmental and cultural destruction. The U.S. military serves the interests of imperialist monopoly capitalist corporations, the greedy and parasitic military-industrial complex, and the colonial white nationalist power structure that stole this continent from the indigenous people and instituted slavery of kidnapped Africans. The U.S. military serves no legitimate purpose. “Department of Defense” is a deliberate misnomer as it is really a department of imperialist war. The U.S. military is also responsible for an enormous amount of pollution and greenhouse gas emissions.

    The continuation of the existence of the U.S. military is completely contrary to the Green and Green-Rainbow key value of Nonviolence. And the continued existence of the U.S. military may soon lead to the destruction of the world and the end of life on Earth. It is imperative to shut down the U.S. military.

    But the GPUS Platform and GRP Agenda currently do not communicate a strong enough position. The GRP agenda says, “Our Congressional delegation should be instructed to support downsizing of the bloated military budget”. The GPUS Platform says, “The United States government must reduce our defense budget to half of its current size.”  The GPUS Platform also unfortunately says that the U.S. regime should militarily attack other countries if the UN Security Council rubber-stamps it. (The wording is, “The U.S. is obligated to render military assistance or service under U.N. command to enforce U.N. Security Council resolutions.”

    The GRP should take a position that we want to eliminate the U.S. military, and that the U.S. regime should never use military force. This is not an issue of degree, that some level of brutal polluting parasitic imperialist military would be ok and that we just need to reduce to the appropriate level. No, this is something that must be abolished. The world may not survive much longer with even five or ten percent of the current evil of the U.S. military. If the world is going to survive then the U.S. military is going to be eliminated, whether by the Green Party or by someone else. If there is some small positive function that is done by the U.S. military – and I don’t think there is – then that small program or function could be transferred to a non-military department.

    Proposal Text:

    1. The Green-Rainbow Party of Massachusetts will issue a statement: “Whereas the U.S. military serves no useful purpose and is used solely for imperialist war and to enrich arms manufacturers; the Green-Rainbow Party of Massachusetts recognizes that cutting U.S. military spending in half (or some other arbitrary amount) is not enough. The Green-Rainbow Party calls for the total elimination of the U.S. military and reduction of U.S. military spending to zero. This should include the elimination of secret military spending that is not part of the official “department of defense” budget or that is budgeted through other U.S. government agencies. The Green-Rainbow Party will not support spending any money on offensive military attacks, invasions, occupations or threats against countries anywhere in the world or on producing or buying weapons which would be used for these purposes. The Green-Rainbow Party calls for a complete transformation of U.S. spending and economy out of weapons, war and colonial occupation.”

    2. The Green-Rainbow Party will modify our Party Agenda to call for the elimination of the U.S. military and for the reduction of U.S. military spending to zero and to be in line with the above statement. The GRP will put this position in any future Platform documents.

    3. The Green-Rainbow Party will submit a proposal for one or more amendments to the GPUS Platform to ask the GPUS to take our position on eliminating the U.S. military and banning use of military force by the U.S. regime. We will propose that the GPUS stop using the word “defense” to refer to military spending as the U.S. military does no legitimate defending. Two examples of changes that should be made in the GPUS Plaftorm are 1. that ““The United States government must reduce our defense budget to half of its current size” should be changed to “The United States military must be eliminated. The United States government must reduce our MILITARY budget to zero”, and 2. the Platform plank that says ““The U.S. is obligated to render military assistance or service under U.N. command to enforce U.N. Security Council resolutions.” should be removed.

    Implementation: This proposal can be implemented by a reconvened GRP Platform Committee with the work overseen and approved by Adcom or Statecom, and by the GRP representative(s) to GPUS Platform Committee

    Financial Impact: None or minimal
  • David Rolde
    published this page in 2019 Summer Statecom Proposals 2019-06-16 22:34:09 -0400