[candidate-development] [adcom] delegate allocation

[Eli Beckerman]

Grace, the power is in your hands to stop being tired of this.
Really.

The decision has been made -- one that you are clearly not happy with (which
seems to be a recurring theme, or is it a recurring dream?).

It is a misrepresentation (to put it mildly) that we simply reaffirmed the
delegate selection plan. We added this piece:

"Candidates that are not in communication with their delegates to
instruct them after the first vote or
roll call have effectively released and freed their delegates"

We added it to address Brown, Ball, and Nader -- agreeing that there was
nothing we could do except to
a) hope maybe they release their delegates or
b) free their delegates after the first roll call

I find any attempt to represent otherwise an abuse of trust, power, and
process, all wrapped up into one.

Believe me that I mean ENOUGH when I say BASTA, and I beg you to stop this
apparently endless posturing.

Yours in the convoluted struggle,

Eli



On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 7:44 PM, <Gracegrnrnbw at aol.com> wrote:

> Well, the statecom did not decide the allocation - since we reaffirmed our
> pretty mangled Delegate Selection Plan - it clearly states that allocatin
> is
> decided by CDLC and adcom not the statecom.
>
> And Eli - however tired of this you are - I am surely AT LEAST as tired.
>
> I agree BASTA - problem is I think it is absolutely clear that Brown, Ball
> and Nader are not candidates and therefore cannot get delegates.   And if
> you
> considered them candidates at the time of the primary, they have certainly
> released their delegates by announcing they are not seeking the Green
> Presidential
> Nomination, they clearly at not now seeking delegates.
>
> You want BASTA to mean the opposite.
>
> and we are all on adcom.
>
> So if we have to make a decision by email that is anything but concensus,
> we
> have only one email decision-making process vetted and agreed to be the
> party
> - and that takes three weeks.   If someone wants to put out a proposal
> today.
>
> I think a face-to-face meeting will be both more productive and take less
> time.
>
> And clearly, time lines are not in any way binding since we have not been
> bound by any of the time lines in the Delegate Selection Plan to-date...
> so
> lets just schedule when we can...
>
> Yours, Grace
> In a message dated 5/7/08 6:58:35 PM, gooberthink06 at yahoo.com writes:
>
>
> > Whatever kind of meeting we have, I hope everyone will have by now
> > carefully read the delegate selection plan and the minutes of the most
> recent State
> > Committee meeting.
> >
> >   Now ------------ I agree with Grace that we should take the delegates
> > assigned to Nader, Ball, and Brown and divide them equally amongst the
> delegates
> > who are actually still standing for party nomination.
> >
> >   Others may or may not have other formulations in mind.
> >
> >   The main question that I see is how whatever Adcom decides is going to
> be
> > in sync with the decisions agreed upon and consensed at our recent State
> > Committee meeting.
> >
> >   In struggle,
> >
> >   Gary Hicks
> >
> > Merelice <merelice at gmail.com> wrote:
> >   On 5/7/08, Eli Beckerman wrote:
> >
> > > Can we schedule a face-to-face meeting but deal with the
> > > delegate allocation now? We need to get the virtual StateCom
> > > meeting to happen.
> >
> > This is my (and I hope others') current assumption. At this stage, the
> > calculation is a technical matter that has followed defined criteria.
> > As requested earlier, when I sent out CDLC's memo, please review the
> > calculation and respond with your approvals and/or
> > concerns/suggestions. The clock is ticking.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Merelice
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