[Convention] Fwd: Re: AdCom/ConvCom

david rolde davidrolde at yahoo.com
Wed Aug 30 16:22:00 EDT 2006 

Can whoever is moderating/administering the convention
email list please set the number of recipients allowed
to a higher number. A lot of posts don't go through to
the list.  

Anyway here is my post below:

--- david rolde <davidrolde at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> Dan, Paul & Lisa at the Convention Committee meeting
> on Monday did agree that we can't mail out the 500
> postcards. But I was there and did not agree. And
> Grace has since then posted saying she thinks we can
> mail out the 500 postcards. We have a standing Adcom
> decision to mail out 500 postcards as soon as
> possible
> to notify some people about the convention.  Only 3
> out of 12 Adcom members have said they want to
> overturn the decision. Grace has stated a proposal
> for
> how the 500 names and addresses should be
> determined.
> Who has access to these lists that Grace is talking
> about and can go through them and see who we don't
> have email addresses for? Is there someone who can
> work on this this week? Paul's draft postcard seemed
> fine and doesn't need much more work. 
> 
> - David
> 
> --- Gracegrnrnbw at aol.com wrote:
> 
> > I am not sure how the 500 was going to be selected
> > but our email ists if we 
> > use the announce list, the "supporters list" from
> > Jill and Jamie's runs last 
> > time, and an overlapping donors list includes
> > thousands (although since they 
> > overlap I don't know how many thousands).   a call
> > toeach camapign requesting 
> > that they make this notice a priority and getting
> a
> > commitment should add many, 
> > many hundreds more.
> > 
> > This notice needs to be pretty exciting with a
> > catchy subject line to get 
> > through the email overload most people experience!
>  
> > Maybe an evite like Jamie 
> > did for our press conference announcing we re on
> the
> > ballot.
> > 
> > Also, just for clarity- the signature collector
> list
> > belongs to the whole 
> > slate.
> > 
> > Then whoever was going to go through to id the 500
> > list maybe could review 
> > all these lists and see who on them is listed
> > without an email and mail to those 
> > people.   
> > 
> > Just a suggestion, Grace
> > In a message dated 8/30/06 12:07:55 AM,
> > AbolishPoverty at aol.com writes:
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > In a message dated 8/29/06 12:41:56 PM,
> > paulmushrush at gmail.com writes:
> > > 
> > > <<
> > > 
> > > 
> > > You'd agreed, last night, to notify AdCom of our
> > decission
> > > 
> > > to change their plan to send a postcard to a
> > select group
> > > 
> > > of 500 members. Well, I'm working on the ConvCom
> > minutes
> > > 
> > > right now, and I'll be happy to send the
> > postcard/email section
> > > 
> > > to AdCom. See it, cop-n-pasted below.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Let me know if you'll be doing this, or you'd
> > rather I do it.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > thanx!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --
> > > 
> > > Paul
> > > 
> > > 
> > > paulmushrush at gmail.com
> > > 
> > > 978.413.1152
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > *Notification:*
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Convention Planning Committee members, excluding
> > David, arrived at an
> > > 
> > > agreement that the AdCom decision to mail out
> 500
> > postcards to more active
> > > 
> > > members of the MGRP listservs is faulty. As Dan
> > pointed out, and Lisa and
> > > 
> > > Paul agreed to, sending a postcard to a
> > subjectively selected list of 500 *
> > > 
> > > active* members would most likely be repeating a
> > more affordable email
> > > 
> > > announcement, which all of these individuals
> would
> > likely receive if it were
> > > 
> > > just announced through email. Dan stated that
> this
> > selection of individuals
> > > 
> > > will prove to be a rather elitist action, and
> that
> > an announcement mailed to
> > > 
> > > some members ought to be mailed to all. Having
> not
> > attended the August AdCom
> > > 
> > > meeting, Dan does not know how an arbitrary
> number
> > of 500 was ever decided
> > > 
> > > upon. David voiced serious concerns with this
> > ConvCom discussion, and said
> > > 
> > > that we must comply with decisions made by
> AdCom.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > If we are to send out an email message to all
> > listserv recipients and
> > > 
> > > everybody active in the party, the following
> lists
> > should be included:
> > > 
> > > 
> > >    - MGRP lisrsevs
> > > 
> > >    - All campaign volunteers
> > > 
> > >    - Patrick Keaney's list of petition
> gatherers
> > > 
> > >    - MGRPAnnouncement email listservs
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Dan will compose this email announcement
> message.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > We all agreed that in addition to sending email,
> > phonebanking should quickly
> > > 
> > > be conducted/ [Dan Kontoff joined us briefly, by
> > phone, and agreed to
> > > 
> > > coordinate phonebanking efforts.] >>
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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> > > Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 12:40:41 -0400
> > > From: "Paul Mushrush" <paulmushrush at gmail.com>
> > > To: Lisa-Richards-GRP-ExpCom
> > <AbolishPoverty at aol.com>
> > > Subject: AdCom/ConvCom
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> > > 
> > > 
> > > Lisa,
> > > 
> > > You'd agreed, last night, to notify AdCom of our
> > decission
> > > to change their plan to send a postcard to a
> > select group
> > > of 500 members. Well, I'm working on the ConvCom
> > minutes
> > > right now, and I'll be happy to send the
> > postcard/email section
> > > to AdCom. See it, cop-n-pasted below.
> > > 
> > > Let me know if you'll be doing this, or you'd
> > rather I do it.
> > > 
> > > thanx!
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Paul
> > > 
> > > paulmushrush at gmail.com
> > > 978.413.1152
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Notification:
> > >  Convention Planning Committee members,
> excluding
> > David, arrived at an 
> > > agreement that the AdCom decision to mail out
> 500
> > postcards to more active members 
> > > of the MGRP listservs is faulty. As Dan pointed
> > out, and Lisa and Paul 
> > > agreed to, sending a postcard to a subjectively
> > selected list of 500 active 
> > > members would most likely be repeating a more
> > affordable email announcement, which 
> > > all of these individuals would likely receive if
> > it were just announced 
> > > through email. Dan stated that this selection of
> > individuals will prove to be a 
> > > rather elitist action, and that an announcement
> > mailed to some members ought to 
> > > be mailed to all. Having not attended the August
> > AdCom meeting, Dan does not 
> > > know how an arbitrary number of 500 was ever
> > decided upon. David voiced 
> > > serious concerns with this ConvCom discussion,
> and
> > said that we must comply with 
> > > decisions made by AdCom.
> > >   
> > >  If we are to send out an email message to all
> > listserv recipients and 
> > > everybody active in the party, the following
> lists
> > should be included:
> > >      •      MGRP lisrsevs
> > >      •     All campaign volunteers
> > >      •     Patrick Keaney's list of petition
> > gatherers
> > >      •     MGRPAnnouncement email listservs
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  Dan will compose this email announcement
> message.
> > >   
> > >  We all agreed that in addition to sending
> email,
> > phonebanking should 
> > > quickly be conducted/ [Dan Kontoff joined us
> > briefly, by phone, and agreed to 
> > > coordinate phonebanking efforts.]
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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