[GNC] RE: [Locals] RE: article on possiblity of GNC being rigged

Owen Broadhurst thersites2467 at hotmail.com
Fri Aug 6 07:21:51 EDT 2004


The reasons we, the PCSC (Presidential Campaign Support Committee) rejected 
IRV when we finalized the floor rules that we submitted to the GPUS 
Coordinating Committee ( this decision against IRV being, by the way, one of 
the few PCSC decisions that I had agreed with ) was very simply that we had 
multiple balloting and a situation where many delegates were pledged on at 
least the first round and several on future rounds. Multiple balloting 
eliminated the need for IRV, since this is precisely what IRV does emulate. 
Furthermore, IRV within this instance could not fairly have been implemented 
since many delegates, being pledged, would not have been able to indicate
a second or third (etc.) choice. I was among PCSC members adamant that IRV 
NOT be used.

Lorna Salzman, by the way, did indeed intent to seek the nomination herself. 
This situation changed
only when floor rules eliminating candidates had been adopted AFTER the 
primaries, when it became
clear that she could not emerge as a compromise candidate.

Owen Broadhurst


----Original Message Follows----
From: JMelanieMazer at aol.com
Subject: [Locals] RE: article on possiblity of GNC being rigged
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 04:18:36 EDT


  hi all
                              David Rolde asked me to comment.  I am not 
very
goodat this andI may  contradict myself.
                                    I believe the convention was run un
democratically.  There is so much  evidence to support this such as messed 
up primary
votes, stupid floor rules,  and the stupid time crunch.  And the CCC and
Steering Committees which at  first said only Camejo and
Cobb could speak.  And the fact the whole descision was made NOT by  IRV.
                                    On the other hand it was not rigged.  If
anything, the Nader/Camejo people  tried from before the Convention to screw 
it
up.  Camejo misled people to  think he wasrunning when he was a shill for
Nader.  I hate that word shill  now.  So un Green.  So was Lorna a shill.
Although I voted for  Mesplay I AM PROUD TO VOTE FOR COBB "warts
and all" as someone said.  We only have three months.  Not so  sure/happy
about LaMarche.
                       OK only three months.  I want Cobb/LaMarche to do the
best damn they  can-
did you know Nader not on the ballot in California and the Greens  are?  Did
you know the Greens are on the ballot in Pennsylvania AND  PENNSYLVANIA IS A
MAJOR SWING STATE?  ALL I KNOW IS I WANT STEIN, ZITOLA,  JOHNSON, AND 
BARKLEY
TO WIN,
ALONG WITH THE OTHERS.
                   So  when do we start ironboarding "canvassing"?
                            Jen "Eowyn"  Mazer
_jmelaniemazer at aol.com_ (mailto:jmelaniemazer at aol.com)

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