[GNC] Not suspending GNC list - I resign as list administrator

Yarden yen.yarden at verizon.net
Sat Aug 7 07:53:49 EDT 2004


Steve,
I agree.
Elie Yarden
Cambridge



On Saturday, August 7, 2004, at 01:20 AM, steve milder wrote:

> Hi Everyone!
>
> I originally asked the tech committee to set-up this list so we could
> prepare for the convention, but now I, too, would like to step down 
> from
> administrating this list.  The types
> of posts which have been sent to the list recently have been requiring 
> a
> great deal of moderation, because so many are responses to mass-emaisl
> from various other lists (which mailman won't let through).
>
> Personally, I can see very little reason to keep this list, 
> particularly
> in its current form--it just seems to privelege the former delegates by
> restricting news about the presidential campaign to them, and keeps 
> other
> GRs out of the loop.  Perhaps the core of this list could somehow be
> reconstituted into another, more open list for everyone interested in
> presidential politics, but personally, I think most of the discussion
> going on here is much more relevant to the locals list or other already
> existant mailing lists (becuase it is so important to the party, and
> should be known by as many folks as possible--the fact that other 
> people
> share this position is evident in the fact that so many recent posts to
> this list have been sent to numerous other mailing lists, as well).
>
> The only purpose I could possibly see this list continuing to serve is 
> the
> coordination of the convetion article for the newsletter, but it seems
> like that is already under control.
>
> In short, I don't see any reason for this particular group to continue
> discussing these matters, especially because I think many of them 
> warrant
> discussion by a larger group of GRs, not just the people who happen to 
> be
> on this list.
>
> Anyway, just my two cents, and if people want to keep the list going, 
> it
> would be great if someone could step forward to moderate, but I highly
> encourage combining this list, rather than creating yet another list
> people need to be on to really know what is going on within the party.
>
> -Steve
>
> On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Scott Pherson wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> If there is a movement to keep this list active indefinitely (as 
>> appears to be the case), please be aware that I will be removing 
>> myself from this list and removing myself as the list administrator 
>> tomorrow.  I cannot continue to administer the daily requests that 
>> come in to this list.  **To everyone on the Technology Committee, 
>> please cancel my request to have the list ended on Sat., Aug. 7 at 12 
>> PM.**  Steve Milder is still an administrator of this list.
>>
>> The policy that I have been following about approving/rejecting 
>> messages sent to gnc at green-rainbow.org has been to approve the 
>> message if it came from any of the GR delegates and alternates (but a 
>> different email address than the one subscribed).  If the message 
>> came from a GRP member who was not a delegate or alternate, I read 
>> the message and approved it if the topic/message was relevant to an 
>> ongoing list discussion or the purposes of the list, N.B. none of the 
>> emails from GRP members that I have read were not relevant.  If the 
>> message came from a non GRP member (including Greens from other 
>> states), I rejected the message and asked the sender to get the 
>> message sponsored by a GRP delegate or alternate if she/he felt it 
>> was important enough to get to the group.
>>
>> I took a look at the list of members for this group and it appears 
>> that all but one delegate has remained on the list.  The only non 
>> delegates and alternates on this list are myself and Ron.  At any 
>> time, someone can unsubscribe from this list, but it is my guess that 
>> everyone has chosen to remain because they are still interested in 
>> the issues being discussed on this list.
>>
>> To everyone on this list who is also a member of the Administrative 
>> Committee, please take note of everyone who has stepped forward to 
>> write an article for the Newsletter:
>> Elie Yarden, Mike Heichman, Samantha Zitola, Gil Obler (in the form 
>> that he has authorized the authors to use words from his previous 
>> emails and report to statecom).  This information (and any last names 
>> that are reported by Aug. 7) should be brought forward at the 
>> Administrative Committee meeting on Monday, Aug. 9
>>
>> It has been fun helping make Green-Rainbow voices be heard at the 
>> Green National Convention, and also very enlightening to help keep 
>> the 454 emails to this list since May flowing smoothly.  Good luck 
>> with the newsletter article and whatever direction this list heads.
>>
>> Scott Pherson
>> outgoing GRP Candidate Development and Legal Committee Co-Chair
>>
>> Mike Heichman <mikeh.massed at rcn.com> wrote:
>>
>> I agree with Merelice.
>>
>> Mike Heichman
>>
>>
>> on 8/6/04 12:41 PM, Merelice at aol.com at Merelice at aol.com wrote:
>>
>> As long as there seems to be a valid reason to keep this list, I see 
>> little reason to dump it. In particular, material for the newsletter 
>> will remain a need for a while. And until there is a presidential 
>> campaign task force formed, this is a useful list.
>> Merelice
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