[GNC] Not suspending GNC list - I resign as list administrator

Sat Aug 7 11:54:29 EDT 2004

I propose we keep this list going and that we announce that the list 
is for Presidential discussion and that all GRP people are welcome to 
join and participate.  - David

At 8:46 AM -0700 8/7/04, Scott Pherson wrote:
>I echo Steve's comments.  I hope that everyone does any one or more 
>of the following:
>
>1) joins another discussion list and continues these Presidential 
>discussions there
>2) joins the CDLC and/or newly formed Cobb/LaMarche organizing 
>sub-committee of the CDLC
>3) creates a new list open/advertised to ALL GRP members to continue 
>these discussions and plan actions
>
>In the meantime, I'd recommend that this list be ended unless 
>someone steps forward to be a new moderator, because the list is now 
>without moderation.
>
>I'm taking myself off the list now.
>
>Scott Pherson
>outgoing CDLC Co-Chair
>
>steve milder <smilder at fas.harvard.edu> wrote:
>
>Hi Everyone!
>
>I originally asked the tech committee to set-up this list so we could
>prepare for the convention, but now I, too, would like to step down from
>administrating this list. The types
>of posts which have been sent to the list recently have been requiring a
>great deal of moderation, because so many are responses to mass-emaisl
>from various other lists (which mailman won't let through).
>
>Personally, I can see very little reason to keep this list, particularly
>in its current form--it just seems to privelege the former delegates by
>restricting news about the presidential campaign to them, and keeps other
>GRs out of the loop. Perhaps the core of this list could somehow be
>reconstituted into another, more open list for everyone interested in
>presidential politics, but personally, I think most of the discussion
>going on here is much more relevant to the locals list or other already
>existant mailing lists (becuase it is so important to the party, and
>should be known by as many folks as possible--the fact that other people
>share this position is evident in the fact that so many recent posts to
>this list have been sent to numerous other mailing lists, as well).
>
>The only purpose I could possibly see this list continuing to serve is the
>coordination of the convetion article for the newsletter, but it seems
>like that is already under control.
>
>In short, I don't see any reason for this particular group to continue
>discussing these matters, especially because I think many of them warrant
>discussion by a larger group of GRs, not just the people who happen to be
>on this list.
>
>Anyway, just my two cents, and if people want to keep the list going, it
>would be great if someone could step forward to moderate, but I highly
>encourage combining this list, rather than creating yet another list
>people need to be on to really know what is going on within the party.
>
>-Steve
>
>On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Scott Pherson wrote:
>
>>  Hi everyone,
>>
>>  If there is a movement to keep this list active indefinitely (as 
>>appears to be the case), please be aware that I will be removing 
>>myself from this list and removing myself as the list administrator 
>>tomorrow. I cannot continue to administer the daily requests that 
>>come in to this list. **To everyone on the Technology Committee, 
>>please cancel my request to have the list ended on Sat., Aug. 7 at 
>>12 PM.** Steve Milder is still an administrator of this list.
>>
>>  The policy that I have been following about approving/rejecting 
>>messages sent to gnc at green-rainbow.org has been to approve the 
>>message if it came from any of the GR delegates and alternates (but 
>>a different email address than the one subscribed). If the message 
>>came from a GRP member who was not a delegate or alternate, I read 
>>the message and approved it if the topic/message was relevant to an 
>>ongoing list discussion or the purposes of the list, N.B. none of 
>>the emails from GRP members that I have read were not relevant. If 
>>the message came from a non GRP member (including Greens from other 
>>states), I rejected the message and asked the sender to get the 
>>message sponsored by a GRP delegate or alternate if she/he felt it 
>>was important enough to get to the group.
>  >
>>  I took a look at the list of members for this group and it appears 
>>that all but one delegate has remained on the list. The only non 
>>delegates and alternates on this list are myself and Ron. At any 
>>time, someone can unsubscribe from this list, but it is my guess 
>>that everyone has chosen to remain because they are still 
>>interested in the issues being discussed on this list.
>>
>>  To everyone on this list who is also a member of the 
>>Administrative Committee, please take note of everyone who has 
>>stepped forward to write an article for the Newsletter:
>>  Elie Yarden, Mike Heichman, Samantha Zitola, Gil Obler (in the 
>>form that he has authorized the authors to use words from his 
>>previous emails and report to statecom). This information (and any 
>>last names that are reported by Aug. 7) should be brought forward 
>>at the Administrative Committee meeting on Monday, Aug. 9
>>
>>  It has been fun helping make Green-Rainbow voices be heard at the 
>>Green National Convention, and also very enlightening to help keep 
>>the 454 emails to this list since May flowing smoothly. Good luck 
>>with the newsletter article and whatever direction this list heads.
>>
>>  Scott Pherson
>>  outgoing GRP Candidate Development and Legal Committee Co-Chair
>>
>>  Mike Heichman wrote:
>>
>>  I agree with Merelice.
>>
>>  Mike Heichman
>>
>>
>>  on 8/6/04 12:41 PM, Merelice at aol.com at Merelice at aol.com wrote:
>>
>>  As long as there seems to be a valid reason to keep this list, I 
>>see little reason to dump it. In particular, material for the 
>>newsletter will remain a need for a while. And until there is a 
>>presidential campaign task force formed, this is a useful list.
>>  Merelice
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