[GNC] [Fwd: Re: Quesion for Nader, from Mass Green-Rainbow delegate]

[Owen Broadhurst]

Thank you, Aram.

The following quote from Mr. Zeese is illuminating:

"I'll pass it on to Ralph, you should know that one of the key reasons he  did not run Green was when he visited Mass and was told by Greens --  please don't run Green, it will make it impossible to run local campaigns because all we will hear is spoiler and not our issues -- Jill Stein was at the forefront of this.  I'm sure RN will remember that and 
be hesitant as a result.  Any thoughts on this are welcome."

Is Kevin serious? Ralph didn't run as a Green because Stein asked him not to?

Kevin produced no representative cross-sample of Green-Rainbow opinion to this effect. He produced no statement from any local, and he produced no statement from the state committee. So, he's saying that Nader took opinions from a $100 a person fundraiser as being somehow representative of us? Was that a scientific poll?

I never heard Ralph cite that as a "key reason". Does Ralph know Kevin said this of him?

Owen

----- Original Message -----
From: Aram Falsafi <afalsafi at igc.org>
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 01:21:43 -0400
To: Green National Convention <gnc at green-rainbow.org>
Subject: [GNC] [Fwd: Re: Quesion for Nader, from Mass Green-Rainbow delegate]

Re: I have not yet heard back from Nadre on the key question of whether a
Re: Nader/Camejo endorsement would imply them running on our ticket in MA and not as
Re: independents. But here is an interesting exchange that I had with one of his
Re: aids. Read from the bottom up to get a full picture.
Re: 
Re: -Aram
Re: 
Re: -------- Original Message --------
Re: Subject: Re: Quesion for Nader, from Mass Green-Rainbow delegate
Re: Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 13:20:58 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Re: From: Aram Falsafi <afalsafi at igc.org>
Re: Reply-To: Aram Falsafi <afalsafi at igc.org>
Re: To: Kevin Zeese <kzeese at votenader.org>
Re: 
Re: Hi Kevin,
Re: 
Re: Thanks for the note. Yes, I was at that event too. And sadly, you are right. I
Re: was one of the few Greens present who asked Nader to run as a Green. But
Re: remember that this was a $100 event, so most Greens (including Stein) were from
Re: the rich suburbs, and it was definitely the more centrist wing of the party that
Re: was there. Many grassroots community/labor activists like the cochairs at the
Re: time, or Boston city councillor Chuck Turner, or Rainbow Coalition founder Mel
Re: King were not there in large part because of the pricetag. If this had been a
Re: more accessible forum, I believe you would have seen a more diverse GRP
Re: represntation, and a very different perspective. Anyways, that's water under the
Re: bridge.
Re: 
Re: By the way, I just got an email from GreensforNader where Donna Warren asked us
Re: to **nominate** Nader/Camejo. I thought they didn't want the nomination?
Re: 
Re: Thanks again, and looking forward to meeting you in person.
Re: 
Re: -Aram
Re: 
Re: 
Re: -----Original Message-----
Re: From: Kevin Zeese <kzeese at votenader.org>
Re: Sent: Jun 22, 2004 11:30 AM
Re: To: Aram Falsafi <afalsafi at igc.org>
Re: Subject: Re: Quesion for Nader, from Mass Green-Rainbow delegate
Re: 
Re: Aram
Re: 
Re: I'll pass it on to Ralph, you should know that one of the key reasons he 
Re: did not run Green was when he visited Mass and was told by Greens -- 
Re: please don't run Green, it will make it impossible to run local 
Re: campaigns because all we will hear is spoiler and not our issues -- Jill 
Re: Stein was at the forefront of this.  I'm sure RN will remember that and 
Re: be hesitant as a result.  Any thoughts on this are welcome.
Re: 
Re: Kevin
Re: 
Re: Aram Falsafi wrote:
Re: 
Re: > Hi Kevin,
Re: > 
Re: > Here is my question for Ralph. Please pass it on to him. I will have reliable
Re: > email access until Wed around 5, and possible email access during the following
Re: > 2-3 days. During the convention my cell phone is 617-620-9164.
Re: > 
Re: > Thanks,
Re: > -Aram
Re: > 
Re: > 
Re: > Dear Ralph,
Re: > 
Re: > First of all, I want to commend you on your choice of a running mate. Peter
Re: > Camejo's committment to the Green Party is known to all, as are his progressive
Re: > credentials in general.
Re: > 
Re: > In a conversation with Kevin Zeese today, I was informed that you would welcome
Re: > an endorsement from the Green Party, but that you are not seeking the party's
Re: > nomination.
Re: > 
Re: > I am an uncommitted delegate to the GP national convention. Uncommitted
Re: > delegates make up the largest delegation from Massachusetts. As you know, your
Re: > candidacy in 2000 helped build our party into the third largest electoral force
Re: > in the state, and ensured us ballot access. In order to continue to build the
Re: > party at the state and local level, we need to maintain our ballot status. And
Re: > for that, we need to field a candidate in November, and that candidate must
Re: > receive 3% of the vote.
Re: > 
Re: > The Green-Rainbow Party has therefore made a decision to place a candidate on
Re: > the ballot in November, whether or not the Green Party elects to run a candidate
Re: > at the national level. My fellow Massachusetts delegates and I will need to keep
Re: > this in mind when casting our votes during the nominating convention.
Re: > 
Re: > Therefore I would like to know whether you would be willing to appear on the
Re: > Massachusetts Green-Rainbow Party's ballot, if you were to receive the Green
Re: > Party's endorsement at the national convention in Milwaukee. (And if other state
Re: > parties are faced with the same dilemma, would you be willing to have your name
Re: > on the Green Party ballot in those states?)
Re: > 
Re: > I thank you for your unshaking committment to the progressive movement, and for
Re: > all that you have done for the Green Party throughout the years.
Re: > 
Re: > Looking forward to your reply,
Re: > Aram Falsafi
Re: > Watertown, MA
Re: > 617-620-9164
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