[Platform] <spam> Re: [statecom] the sunset proposal

[John Walsh]

PLEASE FORWARD TO ONE AND ALL:
My information was that this proposal would specifically state that  
no statement passed by a higher body could be sunseted by a lower body.
That means that something passed by convention could not be  
disappeared by statecom, that something passed by statecom could not  
be deep sixed by adcom and that something passed by adcom could not  
be killed off by the chairs.
I also suggested that for some things passed by the state convention,  
the state convention might at that time give the statecom the right  
to review it at certain times - or not.
This MUST be perfectly clear and explicit - otherwise we end up like  
the Democrat Party, a party that is not democratic which is basically  
why it is worthless.
jw


On Jan 25, 2008, at 1:24 PM, annie butler wrote:

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> gary your response works for me.
> annie marie butlermystic river green rainbow actiongreen rainbow  
> party of massachusetteselected member of the nc, green  
> party"father, i am a criminal. fear not to relay my crime. the  
> crime is loving the forsaken. only silence is shame."    b.  
> vanzetti"people talking shit but when the shit hit the fan,  
> everything i'm not made me everything i am."  kanye west
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>> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 10:11:35 -0800
>> From: gooberthink06 at yahoo.com
>> To: etwee at earthlink.net; statecom at green-rainbow.org
>> CC: platform at green-rainbow.org
>> Subject: Re: [statecom] the sunset proposal
>>
>> All:
>>
>>   We should leave such moves as proposed by the co-chairs to those  
>> able to take years of previously accessible documents and, with a  
>> single stroke of a computer key, declare them off limits. My  
>> favorite candidate for such power is Homeland Security.
>>
>>   Gary Hicks
>>
>> BillCunningham  wrote:
>>   Dear friends in GRP,
>>
>> I would like to draw your attention to the "Sunset Proposal" which  
>> the Cochairs have made to the January 27 StateCom meeting. I have  
>> just posted the following response to that proposal.
>>
>> This proposal refers to "party statements of policy." But it does  
>> not define that term. The GRP website contains a list of  
>> documents, on the main page and the "read more" page. Not every  
>> document is titled as "statement." Some documents are titled as  
>> "press release," "endorsement," "letter," or "platform."
>>
>> The titles are not systematic but arbitrary. For example, the 2004  
>> DNC "statement" is really more of a press release. Any reader can  
>> see that it is not current. The Palestine "statement" is a party  
>> position because it is current. Any reader can see that it refers  
>> to an ongoing situation. (Any reader who has the code to open the  
>> document, that is!)
>>
>> A party position is, in effect, an addition to the party platform.  
>> The process for adopting a party position is completely different  
>> from the process for issuing a press release or endorsement of  
>> someone else's position.
>>
>> If StateCom has the power or right to sunset a position adopted by  
>> Convention, does it also have the power or right to reinstate or  
>> revise such a position? This proposal assumes that StateCom does  
>> have that power and right. Is there any precedent or rule to  
>> justify this?
>>
>> Does the sunset apply to every policy document on the page or only  
>> those with the formal title "statement"? If it applies to all,  
>> that would sink the existing State platform, which is more than  
>> three years old. If it applies only to formally titled "documents"  
>> then it is as arbitrary as the titles themselves.
>>
>> It appears that there are only five policy documents on the GRP  
>> website which are more than three years old. They are the  
>> statements on Sudan, Palestine and Iraq (for some reason Iraq  
>> isn't actually on the page), the DNC press release "statement" and  
>> the party platform.
>>
>> I ask that the sponsors clarify their intent by clarifying the  
>> language of their proposal.
>>
>> Bill Cunningham
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John V. Walsh, MD
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