[Platform] Fwd: New Mexico

Tue Mar 18 21:10:26 EDT 2008

I think you are right - and I hope that people with credibility like  
you and Bill and Merelice and Nat and Jill will take the GRP in the  
right direction.
The biggest threat now is the Obama Zombies.  Yes he is just like JFK  
who gave us the Bay of Pigs and when that did not work gave us  
Vietnam - and almost blew up the world in the Cuban Missile Crisis.    
When Obama says, "We will change the world," his favorite final words  
in a speech, I get very very fucking scared.
But oh, he is black - like Colin Powell and Condaleeza Rice and  
Clarence Thomas.   Not to worry.  Identity politics will get us there  
- to doomsday.
jw
On Mar 18, 2008, at 8:44 PM, annie butler wrote:

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>> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:50:01 -0400
>> From: etwee at earthlink.net
>> To: john.walsh at umassmed.edu
>> CC: platform at green-rainbow.org; candidate-development at green- 
>> rainbow.org; merelice at gmail.com
>> Subject: Re: [Platform] Fwd: New Mexico
>>
>> So that means Gonzalez quits the GPUS and an effort is underway to  
>> split people away nationwide.
>>
>> To my thinking, neither Nader or the current GPUS has any plan to  
>> build the kind of movement party that will be needed in the years— 
>> prhaps even months—ahead. The only thing more chimerical in the  
>> U.S. than a purely electoral opposition party, is internecine  
>> fighting over which one has the correct line.
>>
>> Can you say IMPLOSION?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: John Walsh
>>> Sent: Mar 11, 2008 11:15 AM
>>> To: BillCunningham
>>> Cc: Merelice , Platform Committee , candidate development
>>> Subject: Re: [Platform] Fwd: New Mexico
>>>
>>> Wherever possible Nader/Gonzalez will seek a ballot line NOT as
>>> individuals but as a new party - name undecided.  That is my
>>> understanding.
>>> That party can then work to put folks on the ballot in the next
>>> campaign.  I think that the better GP parties (I include MA and CA)
>>> will in one way or other make an alliance or join with this new
>>> political entity.  Ralph does not want to use his last hurrah  
>>> just to
>>> run a campaign.  It is to be part of a new movement just as was 2000
>>> but unfortunately the GPUS was hijacked and remains so.  Sad.
>>> john walsh
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2008, at 10:11 AM, BillCunningham wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Merelice,
>>>>
>>>> No, what I mean is this. If Nader (say) ran in November on the line
>>>> of a party (say GPUS/GRP) and received 3 percent of the MA vote,
>>>> that would thereby secure the party's 2010 ballot line and official
>>>> status. But if Nader (say) gets 3 percent as an independent, that
>>>> doesn't secure anybody's future ballot line or status. Is that
>>>> right? That's why the phrase "money down the drain" made me think
>>>> of this question.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Merelice
>>>>> Sent: Mar 10, 2008 6:52 PM
>>>>> To: BillCunningham
>>>>> Cc: John Walsh , Platform Committee
>>>>> , candidate development >>> development at green-rainbow.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Platform] Fwd: New Mexico
>>>>>
>>>>> (Forward to Need-to-know if of interest.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Bill,
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure I understand your question, especially your use of the  
>>>>> term
>>>>> "votes." But here are some points that might be relevant.
>>>>>
>>>>> Assuming the GRP offers Nader the convention delegates he  
>>>>> earned in
>>>>> the GRP presidential primary, he could either decide to use  
>>>>> them to
>>>>> seek the Green Party nomination (pretty unlikely from the  
>>>>> sounds of
>>>>> things) or he could release them. The primary was the only time  
>>>>> that
>>>>> public "votes" are involved.
>>>>>
>>>>> Whoever wins the nomination at the Green Party's national  
>>>>> nominating
>>>>> convention in July (by winning over enough delegates) will then
>>>>> become
>>>>> the Green Party's presidential candidate in the November general
>>>>> presidential election.
>>>>>
>>>>> Should anyone (including Nader) wish to run as an independent
>>>>> candidate in November, they will need to follow each state's
>>>>> requirements (generally collecting sigs) for running in that  
>>>>> capacity
>>>>> -- as Nader is now doing in New Mexico. In other words, he has his
>>>>> work cut out for him. The GRP primary votes have no bearing on an
>>>>> independent candidacy. Nader apparently thinks he has a stronger
>>>>> field
>>>>> operation for getting on state ballots than the Green Party can  
>>>>> offer
>>>>> -- and stronger than he had in 2004 when he did not make it on the
>>>>> Mass. ballot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Merelice
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/10/08, BillCunningham  wrote:
>>>>>> Speaking of money down the drain, if Nader as a non-party
>>>>>> candidate gets enough votes to qualify for state ballot lines,
>>>>>> who gets to exercise that option?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bill Cunningham
>>>>
>>>
>>> John V. Walsh, MD
>>> Professor of Physiology
>>> University of Massachusetts Medical School
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Bill Cunningham
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