[Procedures] Lisa NOT going

Gracegrnrnbw at aol.com Gracegrnrnbw at aol.com
Thu Jul 10 12:30:33 EDT 2008 

Not, desparation - Kim was organizing this, Terezinha stepped out and I 
cannot reach her... Lisa is a full delegate - she is seeing if she can go...

Pretty straight forward... G
In a message dated 7/10/08 12:23:29 PM, yen.yarden at verizon.net writes:


> Merelice,
> (sigh of relief)
> I was concerned not to disturb your sleep, and the message from Wanda 
> was that you would not be on board until this evening.
> I am delighted.
> 
> Everything keeps changing.  When Lisa first agreed to go as a delegate 
> -- fairly high on the list submitted by the McKinney Campaign -- she 
> sent out a public call for assistance.  It also seemed to have a bit 
> of challenge in its tone and so this was for me an opportunity to show 
> (for at least the hundredth time in this party) that I am NOT, and do 
> not provide a useful instantiation of the Male-Whitemale enemy.  I 
> publicly offered fifty bucks, knowing that the rest would be 
> forthcoming from others.
> 
> When I attended the Rainbow caucus meeting in Chuck Turner's office 
> Tuesday night, I was surprised and was also embarrassed at having to 
> assemble my promise on the spot.  Fortunately I was able to find the 
> right combination including fives and many singles, and signaled to 
> her that I had it on me.  She shook her head.  I stepped out with her 
> when she left.  She had figured out that it would be too costly for 
> her and would not be going. I saying that it would be available should 
> she change her mind again.
> 
> Then I discovered from Kim's e-mail to us that Terezinha, had decided 
> to go, and that she, Kim, had completed the convention registration 
> for herself, Grace and Terezinha Cardoso. and from what she wrote 
> presumed that the three would be leaving for Chicago soon.  This, with 
> Wanda's midnight work, had all the makings of assuring the needed 
> number of delegates, proxies, and alternates who could become 
> delegates (in the absence of others), for the McKinney apportionment.  
> I was wrong.
> 
> This morning, just about ten I received a call from Lisa, warning me 
> that because Terezinha had changed her mind again, accompanied by an 
> explanation of Merezinha's unavailability which had been my experience 
> as well.  So Grace, desperate for people to correspond to the lists, 
> contacted Grace again to insist that she go or get a hold of 
> Terezinha.  In the course of conversation, I did say that it was a 
> little late in the day to be dragging people to Chicago, but that my 
> promise to her stood.  In the matter of the party paying the 
> registration fee, I thus referred her to Dan.
> 
> I failed to involve everyone else, because I still do not know what's 
> up.  Grace is not leaving for Chicago, until late tonight. So things 
> may change,  She may be getting some sleep at the moment, but there is 
> a self -damaging aspect to this behavior that I find upsetting and am 
> nor prepared to confront, even if I did not notice how injurious it is 
> to everyone else.
> Peace,
> Elie
> 
> 
> On Jul 10, 2008, at 11:38 AM, Merelice wrote:
> 
> > Elie,
> >
> > Wanda checked with Lisa and Lisa has confirmed that she is NOT going
> > to the convention.
> >
> > Merelice
> >
> >
> > On 7/10/08, Yarden <yen.yarden at verizon.net> wrote:
> >> Dan,
> >> Thank you!
> >> The more accurate the information we can provide the better.  I am
> >> trying to help Lisa Richards to go, should she decide to do so.
> >> Everything is last minute.   I referred her to you in regard to
> >> funding or payment of registration fee by the party
> >> Elie Yarden
> >> CDLC
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jul 10, 2008, at 11:00 AM, Daniel Melnechuk wrote:
> >>
> >>> I sent this to Michael Feinstein of the Credentials committee for
> >>> national. I think this should be added to the presidential plan for
> >>> next time to recognize the chain of logic from state laws and our
> >>> bylaws that prescribes why we must place the national party's
> >>> candidates for pres and vp on the mass ballot.
> >>>
> >>> Peace,
> >>> Dan
> >>>
> >>> ---------------
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi Michael,
> >>>
> >>> I apologize for my late response and for not clarifying why i had
> >>> sent the GRP PResidential Plan for 2008. In it, section 4, Selection
> >>> of Presidential Electors, describes commonwealth law about selecting
> >>> presidential electors. Since:
> >>>
> >>> 1. GRP bylaws state that we must follow commonwealth law and that we
> >>> are a party to try to elect members of our party to office,
> >>>
> >>> 2. commonwealth law as stated in section 4 of the Presidential Plan
> >>> for 2008 says the state committee shall meet to select the electors,
> >>> with specified time constraints,
> >>>
> >>> 3. the elector form that we must supply to the commonwealth has on 
> >>> it
> >>> spaces for the names of our party's presidential and vice
> >>> presidential candidates and electors selected by the state 
> >>> committee,
> >>> is the way the names of the Green candidates get on the ballot in
> >>> Massachusetts,
> >>>
> >>> 4. that the GRP is a recognized member of GPUS both by GPUS and by
> >>> the FEC, we recognize the GPUS as the national Green party, we are
> >>> affiliated with the GPUS, and we are the state Green party of
> >>> Massachusetts and recognized as such by the Secretary of the
> >>> Commonwealth since they sent us the electors form,
> >>>
> >>> it then logically follows that 2008 GRP Presidential Plan is
> >>> describing our policy to place the candidates that our national 
> >>> Green
> >>> party chooses on the ballot here in Massachusetts. Yes, an argument
> >>> could be made that all we need is an additional statement in this
> >>> plan to make it clear that the plan is to place the presidential and
> >>> vice presidential candidates on the ballot, and a strong one at 
> >>> that.
> >>> I will submit that for addition in 2012's plan.
> >>>
> >>> I hope this has illuminated why i sent the plan in response to the
> >>> question. I guess i should have sent the bylaws and a copy of the
> >>> elector form we must send to the commonwealth (and of course this
> >>> explanation). If you want those docs, please let me know.
> >>>
> >>> Peace and Justice,
> >>> Daniel Melnechuk
> >>> Party Treasurer
> >>> State Committee Representative from Third Middlesex State Senate
> >>> District
> >>> Procedures, Structures and Meetings Committee
> >>> Tech Committee
> >>> 781-883-7597
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Jul 6, 2008, at 7:16 PM, Mike Feinstein wrote:
> >>>> Hi Daniel
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for your state's application. I have one question.
> >>>>
> >>>> On question #4(b) below, you said "please find...", but the
> >>>> attached document had to do with the presidential primary ballot
> >>>> line, not the general election ballot line, which is what question
> >>>> #4 is designed to broach.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 4.) Please list the policy of your state party/caucus regarding:
> >>>> (b) support of the Presidential Slate nominated by the Presidential
> >>>> Nominating Convention by its Presidential Nominating Convention
> >>>> delegates and/or its Presidential electors; and/or,
> >>>>
> >>>> Please find attached a document named "2008presplan.pdf"
> >>>> which specifies the process for selecting electors for our
> >>>> party's presidential candidate as selected at the nomination
> >>>> convention.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Is there a specific policy for the general election ballot line and
> >>>> the GPUS nominee? If so, please send.  If not, just say there is no
> >>>> policy.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike Feinstein
> >>>> Credentials Committee
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Daniel Melnechuk wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Dear GPUS,
> >>>>> Please find attached 10 files, 9 of which are the complete Green-
> >>>>> Rainbow Party Presidential Nominating Convention Delegate
> >>>>> Selection Credentials Application with supporting docs (7 PDFs and
> >>>>> 2 Excel), along with the 10th which is a zipped package of all the
> >>>>> other 9 docs (in case you have issues with any of the other docs
> >>>>> individually).
> >>>>> If it is not asking too much, please call 781-883-7597 to confirm
> >>>>> receipt of this application as well as sending a reply email. The
> >>>>> extended deadline, as was officially requested by our co-chairs,
> >>>>> to deliver this to you was midnight tonight, 7/4/2008. We will
> >>>>> mail two copies on July 5th 2008 to the requested address in the
> >>>>> application unless i receive notification of another address to
> >>>>> mail to.
> >>>>> Thank you for all the work you do! Have a great convention.
> >>>>> Peace and Justice,
> >>>>> Daniel Melnechuk
> >>>>> Treasurer
> >>>>> Green-Rainbow Party
> >>>>
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