[Procedures] Is: Possible policy for email lists; Was: Re: AdCom post from mikeheichman at verizon.net requires approval
Daniel Melnechuk
isis at isisdesign.com
Mon Jul 28 16:58:38 EDT 2008
Hi Mike,
Thanks for responding. I think i was not clear enough. When i said:
committee members that are responsible for the list or forum
i meant the actual committee. So for ComCom list, the ComCom committee
members will be the arbitrators of the issue, not the list members.
I'll post my response and your comment on the list.
As for your first stab at a policy, i like the ability to have
apologies mean something.
Peace,
Dan
On Jul 28, 2008, at 3:53 PM, Mike Heichman wrote:
> Hi Dan,
>
> I don't know if I have posting privileges so please send my comments
> to the Procedures Comm.
>
> I love the concept. I have concerns about the implementation.
>
> I believe that this would require the moderator of each list to play
> a role in the process. For example, who is a "member" on the list?
> (Does membership mean someone who is a participating member of that
> committee? I would say yes. I "listen" to a number of lists that I
> don't belong; I don't think that I should have a vote.)
>
> Even if we were to restrict the decision to the participating
> members, the fact is there are many differences in terms of
> participation on e-mail from those who participate almost never to
> those who participate almost always.
>
> I would suggest the following process:
>
> 1. A person would write an offensive e-mail.
>
> 2. One or more "members" would complain or 2 or more "observers"
> would complain. The complaint would be sent to the entire list,
> which would include the moderator and the alleged offender.
>
> 3. The alleged offender would have an opportunity to apologize
> (within 24 hours?) and those who filed the complaint would have an
> additional 24 hours (?) to either accept the apology or request that
> the complaint go to a vote.
>
> 4. The moderator would send out to the "members" of the list a
> ballot. Members would have 4 (?) days to vote.
>
> 5. 75%+ vote would remove the offender for 3 months (if the offender
> would apologize within the 3 months) or 6 months if no apology.
>
> 6. Report of anyone who is penalized will be sent to the co-chairs.
> Anyone who is penalized by more than one e-mail list will
> automatically be blocked from participation on any GRP e-mail list
> for 6 months.
>
> I will be very happy to consider co-sponsoring a proposal for the
> next regularly scheduled StateCom meeting.
>
> Mike Heichman
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Daniel Melnechuk wrote:
>
>> John is not a member. Yet anyone can join our lists. But our
>> bylaws state:
>>
>> 5.7 Participants in meetings of the Green-Rainbow Party are
>> expected to treat each other with
>> civility and consideration. Persons who violate this standard may
>> be asked to remain silent
>> and / or leave the meeting by a 75% vote of the other attending
>> members of the meeting.
>>
>> So i think a vote of members of the committee could be interpreted
>> to allow silencing someone who is not being civil.
>>
>> But maybe we should propose policy that says:
>>
>> In harmony with section 5.4 of our bylaws, participants in any
>> email list or electronic forum of the Green-Rainbow Party are
>> expected to treat each other with civility and consideration.
>> Persons who violate this standard may be blocked from posting to
>> the list or forum by a 75% vote of the committee members that are
>> responsible for the list or forum. Discussing issues and policies
>> can never be a reason for blocking someone's ability to post,
>> except if it is done in a manner which is not civil nor
>> considerate.
>>
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> Peace,
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>> From: Mike Heichman <mikeheichman at verizon.net>
>>> Date: July 26, 2008 10:36:51 PM EDT
>>> To: "This is the Communication/Media working committee email
>>> list." <comcom at green-rainbow.org >
>>> Cc: NeedToKnow at green-rainbow.org, "Green-Rainbow Party (GRP)
>>> Administrative Committee" <adcom at green-rainbow.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [ComCom] [adcom] Proposed text for robocall
>>>
>>>
>>> Why are we continuing to allow somebody who is not even a member
>>> of our party to continue to spew his poison?
>>>
>>> Mike Heichman
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> John Walsh wrote:
>>>
>>>> How long will it be until Grace does what she "threatened" to do
>>>> not so long ago - go over to the Democrat Party?
>>>> Begging the legislature is much more in tune with the Democrat
>>>> pwogs than the Green strategy which is to pose an alternative.
>>>> Grace really stakes out the former position rather than the
>>>> latter. She really should join the Democrat Party pwogs. She
>>>> belongs there base both on her outlook and her tactics which we
>>>> have all observed over the last six months.
>>>> And if MIke and Gary are more comfortable with that, they should
>>>> go there too. (Gary's parent organization the "C"PUSA believes
>>>> that we should all work to elect Dems anyway. And he is in the
>>>> GRP to deflect our best efforts to the Democrat Party. He will
>>>> not deny this.)
>>>> But what the hell are Grace and Gary doing in the GRP anyway?
>>>> They belong with the Democrat Party.
>>>> jw
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 25, 2008, at 5:12 PM, Merelice wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> In the hopes that we can work out a way to proceed with this
>>>>> project,
>>>>> I will prepare this copy for recording. Whatever way we proceed,
>>>>> it
>>>>> cannot be a joint GRP-McKinney campaign effort since that would
>>>>> not
>>>>> honor the StateCom consensus.
>>>>>
>>>>> Grace, I don't really understand what is meant by losing 58.9
>>>>> billion
>>>>> in household wealth. As written, that could apply to stock market
>>>>> gyrations. Please describe, and maybe provide several stats for
>>>>> me to
>>>>> choose from.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Merelice
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/25/08, Gracegrnrnbw at aol.com <Gracegrnrnbw at aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello, Green-Rainbow voter!
>>>>>> We are calling to ask for your immediate action to help stem
>>>>>> the foreclosure
>>>>>> crisis in Massachusetts. If our legislature does not act by
>>>>>> July31st,
>>>>>> Massachusetts residents are on track to lose 58.9 billion in
>>>>>> household
>>>>>> wealth by the end of 2009 - yes, 58.9 billion in our state alone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please call you legislator as soon as you can; you only need
>>>>>> to give your
>>>>>> name and ask them to pass House bills 4733, 4734 and 4735.
>>>>>> you can find out your legislator on the web at
>>>>>> wheredoivotema.com and call
>>>>>> 617-722-2000 and ask to be transferred to your legislator.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ask them for the 6 month moratorium on sub-prime foreclosures,
>>>>>> to extend
>>>>>> protections for tenants in foreclosed properties and a day in
>>>>>> court before
>>>>>> home-owners lose their mortgage!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This message brought to you by the Green-Rainbow Party and
>>>>>> Power to the
>>>>>> People, the McKinney for President Campaign.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> ComCom mailing list
>>>>> ComCom at green-rainbow.org
>>>>> http://www.green-rainbow.org/mailman/listinfo/comcom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> John V. Walsh, MD
>>>> Professor of Physiology
>>>> University of Massachusetts Medical School
>>>> 508-856-3360 (Office)
>>>> 508-868-1653 (Cell)
>>>> john.walsh at umassmed.edu
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> http://www.green-rainbow.org/mailman/listinfo/comcom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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