[statecom-discuss] Chuck on fusion, et al

[John Walsh]

But I agree with Mell King that this discussion should be postponed
until after we  have enough signatures.
Or how about limiting the Discussion to those who have gathered 100 signatures?
jw


On 7/18/06, BillCunningham <etwee at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Grace & everyoneÑ Thanks for your continued focus.... I have not had time to respond to this stuff lately. Maybe later tonight if the elctricity is on [I guess it's gone out at least four times here]....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: gracegrnrnbw at aol.com
> >Sent: Jul 18, 2006 4:51 PM
> >To: statecom-discuss at green-rainbow.org
> >Subject: Re: [statecom-discuss] Chuck on fusion, et al
> >
> > Hi, Bill - I agree with all your arguments against. there can also be principled strategic issues - such as if something particularly helps an oppressed constituency.
> >
> > On the other hand, I wanted to point out that the experience Merelice reports;
> > " At least some of the voters -- those whom Chuck, Mel, Pat Keaney,
> > and others work and organize with on a daily basis -- believe that
> > they would have more of a voice with fusion than without it and that
> > this change is important to them. I accept that reality even though
> > there is reason to be skeptical about fusion. I believe that ongoing
> > change is more possible through building on the fusion organizing in
> > these communities (African-American and Latino), especially since,
> > despite the GRP's good intentions, we have not been able to match it."
> >
> > In such communities, I am not hearing anything at all about fusion one way or the other (and although it does not seem to carry the same weight, I and others I work with are also daily in lower income and people of color communities). In labor circles where a huge amount of fusion stuff is going on, I still hear voices (greens & some activists of color) speaking strongly against the impact of fusion.
> >
> > So I think there is a principled strategic issue here, I don't think its clear cut what opinion is in many of these communities on this issue.
> >    Love,grace
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: merelice at gmail.com
> > To: etwee at earthlink.net
> > Cc: statecom-discuss at green-rainbow.org
> > Sent: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 2:25 PM
> > Subject: Re: [statecom-discuss] Chuck on fusion, et al
> >
> >  On 7/17/06, BillCunningham <etwee at earthlink.net> wrote:
> > > My concern is not so much that people have different positions, but that all the discussion is about party advantage and none is about the principle, that is how it affects the voter.
> > >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > 1 -- If we believe that the growth, vitality, and influence of the GRP
> > are important to the future of democracy and electoral politics, then
> > thinking about the need to nurture coalitions and the Party's
> > well-being is thinking about how we affect the voter in the long run.
> >
> > 2 -- At least some of the voters -- those whom Chuck, Mel, Pat Keaney,
> > and others work and organize with on a daily basis -- believe that
> > they would have more of a voice with fusion than without it and that
> > this change is important to them. I accept that reality even though
> > there is reason to be skeptical about fusion. I believe that ongoing
> > change is more possible through building on the fusion organizing in
> > these communities (African-American and Latino), especially since,
> > despite the GRP's good intentions, we have not been able to match it.
> >
> > Merelice
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