[statecom-discuss] copy of party position on palestine

[danthbagelman at msn.com]

thanks Annie I liked your five points and it works for me.


>From: "annie butler" <anniembutler at hotmail.com>
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>Subject: [statecom-discuss] copy of party position on palestine
>Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 23:31:55 -0400
>
>john and colby,
>i will be happy to shift the conversation as colby suggests "The more basic 
>we remain on this issue  the better."  john you are right to point out that 
>our party position does not say that israel  does not have a right to 
>exist.
>
>our party position states in point 5 (see below for full text):
>5.  The Green-Rainbow Party of Massachusetts recognizes the right of 
>Palestinians to self-defense as well as nonviolent resistance to Israeli 
>occupation and the Israeli project of forced displacement of the indigenous 
>Palestinian population which has been ongoing since 1948. The right to 
>resist occupation is guaranteed to all peoples of the world by 
>international law.
>
>our party believes palestinians have a right to self defense as well as 
>nonviolent resistance to israeli occupation. so where are the israeli's 
>occupying?  the moon?  no, they are occupying palestine, since 1948, when 
>the country got a name change.
>
>as i said i will be happy, as colby suggests, to remain basic. and i might 
>add, at the risk of seeming ridiculous,  that we all give the american 
>press a rest and hear what the rest of the world reports on what the vast 
>majority of palestinians believe.   please find below our whole position.
>
>towards free palestine,  i don't think it will be to long now unless of 
>course america wants to become embroiled in a much larger war in that part 
>of the world. annie butler
>
>Green-Rainbow Party Statement on Palestine
>
>The Green-Rainbow Party of Massachusetts, in consonance with its adherence 
>to its Ten Key Values, has the following position on the issue of 
>Palestine.
>
>	1.  The Green-Rainbow Party of Massachusetts calls for the end of all 
>American military and economic aid to Israel. Additionally, the 
>Green-Rainbow Party of Massachusetts supports the following means to bring 
>pressure to bear on Israel:
>Divestment initiatives that seek to withdraw institutional investments from 
>Israel state bonds and corporations that do business with Israel.
>
>Academic boycotts of Israeli academics and academic institutions.
>
>	2.  The Green-Rainbow Party of Massachusetts calls for an ecologically 
>sound commitment to equitably sharing and conserving all water and other 
>natural resources among all peoples of the region.
>
>	3.  The Green-Rainbow Party of Massachusetts supports full implementation 
>of the Right of Return for each Palestinian refugee, which means each 
>Palestinian has the right to choose to return to his or her home and lands. 
>This right is a fundamental human right and is enshrined in international 
>law for all peoples of the world.
>
>	4.  The Green-Rainbow Party of Massachusetts rejects all apartheid-based 
>governmental systems and calls for a secular, democratic governing entity 
>for all people in the geographic region of historic Palestine (today 
>referred to by some people as Israel, the West Bank and Gaza). We support a 
>democratic system with equal rights for all in which the peoples of the 
>region democratically decide their future.
>
>	5.  The Green-Rainbow Party of Massachusetts recognizes the right of 
>Palestinians to self-defense as well as nonviolent resistance to Israeli 
>occupation and the Israeli project of forced displacement of the indigenous 
>Palestinian population which has been ongoing since 1948. The right to 
>resist occupation is guaranteed to all peoples of the world by 
>international law.
>
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>"...the road wil bend, the war will end and love will win"  g. brooks
>
>
>
>----Original Message Follows----
>From: "John Walsh" <jvwalshmd at gmail.com>
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>To: "Discussion List for StateCom members" 
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>Subject: Re: Re: [statecom-discuss] Fwd: When Terror Is Just Fine
>Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 18:09:44 -0400
>
>The formulation that Israel does not have the right to exist is NOT a
>good one.  No one, even Nelson Mandela, said that South Africa did not
>have the right to exist.  And that is NOT stated in the GRP position
>which it might be good to read.
>
>The position of the GRP is that the best solution for Palestine is to
>have a secular state - with democratic and religious rights for all.
>It does NOT imply that Israeli Jews should "go home" to Europe or
>wherever they migrated from - no more than Mandela demanded white
>South Africans to go back to England or the Netherlands.  And it
>implies that Palestinians should be able to return to their homeland.
>
>AND if the Palestinians and Israels should democratically decide that
>they prefer a two-state solution (as every secular Palestian party
>seems to want), then that democratic choice of course would be
>respected (And hailed, I dare say.) by the GRP.
>That must be clear to everyone.
>And also we have to worry about the votes and so we must not put
>things in a way that we may find emotionally satisfying but reflect
>neither our real position nor the facts.
>jw
>
>On 7/26/06, annie butler <anniembutler at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>merelice,
>>i understand that is how you think parties are suppose to behave but i do
>>not.  i think we need to stand on principles and be able to explain them 
>>and
>>how they relate to what is going on in our world.  i feel comfortable with
>>that.  you write:
>>"Since we are a political party, I believe one of our functions is to earn
>>and
>>attract the "votes" (literal and figurative)....."
>>
>>i did not join the green-rainbow party because it takes a step by step
>>approach.i joined it because i believe it tells the truth.  as they say it
>>speaks truth to power. we do not have to educate people with lies.  this
>>article assumes that israel has a right to exist.   our party does not.
>>
>>my experience tells me something different about people, at least the 
>>people
>>in my neighborhood.  ( a neighborhood i have lived in for 31 years)  as an
>>example, my neighbors love the newspaper mrgra puts out.   my across the
>>street neighbor asks for it.  he knows what the politics are and he wants 
>>to
>>read more.  (he lives in his family home and his family has lived on this
>>street since time began...well, not quite :>)
>>
>>as i said i believe our job is to speak truth to power.  to speak up in a
>>different voice for a different world and not worry about the votes.
>>
>>annie butler
>>
>>
>>
>>66666666666666666666666666666666666666
>>"...the road will bend, the war will end and love will win"  g. brooks
>>
>>
>>
>>----Original Message Follows----
>>From: Merelice <merelice at gmail.com>
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>>To: "Discussion List for StateCom members"
>><statecom-discuss at green-rainbow.org>
>>Subject: Re: [statecom-discuss] Fwd: When Terror Is Just Fine
>>Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:28:31 -0400
>>
>>On 7/26/06, annie butler <anniembutler at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >merelice:  why do you think this article "educates".  i think that this
>> >article supposes that israel has a right to exist. our party has a 
>>position
>> >on palestine.
>> >
>>
>>Hi,
>>I think this article educates because it recognizes where the vast
>>majority of people are and makes an effort to move them in a different
>>direction. There is a chasm between those of us supporting Palestinian
>>rights and those taken in by incessant propaganda to the contrary.
>>People are not going to cross that chasm in one grand leap. Since we
>>are a political party, I believe one of our functions is to earn and
>>attract the "votes" (literal and figurative) we need so we can make
>>the difference we exist to make. That means trying to identify a
>>step-by-step path to influence change in people's thinking.
>>M.
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