[statecom-discuss] Another Great Performance by Grace, GRP politics in debate

[annie butler]

i have not responded to any of the debates because i do not want to be 
"stumbled upon" by some nutcase, distorting the words i say.  so, like i 
said to colby and ron after the msa antiwar demo, i will no longer talk on 
line.  as i can see here off line and on line get mixed up.  hope to see you 
all at the next statecom.  feel free to call me if you want my two cents 
worth.   annie



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"...the road will bend, the war will end and love will win"  g. brooks



----Original Message Follows----
From: Melissa Harrell <lissagrp at gmail.com>
Reply-To: Discussion List for StateCom members 
<statecom-discuss at green-rainbow.org>
To: statecom-discuss at green-rainbow.org
Subject: Re: [statecom-discuss] Another Great Performance by Grace,GRP 
politics in debate
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 13:50:23 -0400

John,

It is truely in poor taste and outright rude to make off-list communications 
public.  I would ask you at least show me the most basic of respect and keep 
off-list communications, offlist.

-Melissa Harrell
Membership Director
Green-Rainbow Party

gracegrnrnbw at aol.com wrote:
>John - this has nothing to do with truth - it has to do with the fact that 
>listservs are public and read by all sorts of folks - strategy might best 
>be discussed with those of us actually doing the work not with whoever 
>happens across a listserv.
>
>and since you are so big on peace (but not necessarily non-violent social 
>change) - why don't you count the number of peace events I go to, speak at, 
>talk on TV about this issue, am quoted in the press, have as a key plank on 
>my lit, the sub-campaign that now has generated a peace letter and is in 
>the biggest regional peace newsletter.
>
>Thanks, Grace
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: jvwalshmd at gmail.com
>To: lissagrp at gmail.com; NeedToKnow at green-rainbow.org; 
>statecom-discuss at green-rainbow.org; hellowithfire1 at aol.com; 
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>Subject: Re: Re: [statecom-discuss] Another Great Performance by Grace, GRP 
>politics in debate
>
>   You mean we should hide the truth and degenerate into a band of mindless 
>cheerleaders like the Republicans and Democrats? What is wrong with you. 
>And what about our responsibility to speak the truth for all those out 
>there who are caught in the horror of war and empire? Is our loyalty to 
>them or to Grace's performance thus far? As I said, I think Grace has a 
>phenomenal talent as a politician - but she is wasting much (not all) of it 
>so far. Sorry if telling the truth gets you so angry, Melissa - but the 
>truth is my weak spot. jw p.s. If others think that she should be more 
>aggressive, why have we not heard from them?????  On 10/4/06, Melissa 
>Harrell <lissagrp at gmail.com> wrote: > Well at least something nice was 
>first. >  > You are not alone in your desire to see her be more aggressive. 
>You're > just the only one who had the poor taste to say it publicly. What 
>is > wrong with you? > > > John Walsh wrote: > > True, Grace is a very 
>intelligent and articulate presence.  > > BUT she has allowed the debate to 
>develop entirely on the grounds that > > are set out by the War Parties. 
>That is oh so sad. > > Unfortunately, we are influenced by the 
>Establishment political > > parties' way of doing things more than we know 
>at times.  > > In my view, and I may be wrong, Grace is following in Jill's 
>footsteps > > by being entirely too respectable. If you do not get any 
>rabid  > > denunciations in the mainstream media, you are doing something 
>wrong. > > You are not a threat. > > john walsh > > > > On 10/4/06, Maureen 
>Doyle <medoyle3 at yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Great synthesis of Grace's message, 
>Ron! And great > >> job, Grace!! You were (are!) awesome!! :-) maureen > >> 
>P.S. A friend of mine taped the debates and is showing > >> them to her 6th 
>grade class: each student has to pick > >> one candidate to represent and 
>they write their > >> opinion of how they did. I will see if i can get 
>ahold > >> of some of their comments!! maureen > >> > >> --- Ron Francis 
><ronwf777 at yahoo.com> wrote: > >> > >> > Hey all, > >> > > >> > Once again 
>Grace did a great job in the debate and > >> > scored huge points in 
>connecting with ordinary folks > >> > especailly on issues of health care 
>and the > >> > environment. She explained well how it is that the > >> > 
>super wealthy in the society are making decisions > >> > that don't benefit 
>the ordinary person in the > >> > middle. > >> > > >> > She was the only 
>candidate who talked about > >> > investing in our future in terms of 
>rebuilding > >> > infrastructure, and making a good climate for small > >> 
> > businesses vs large corporations. > >> > > >> > She is truly the 
>candidate of the people and > >> > hopefully more and more folks will 
>rescognize this, > >> > and that the GRP represents a real change for a > 
> >> > change, as the campaign continues. > >> > > >> > Let's capitalize on 
>this momentum by commiting to > >> > build local bases of GRP linked groups 
>and GRP > >> > chapters after November whether we win or lose the > >> > 
>gubernatorial race. > >> > > >> > Ron Francis > >> > > >> > > >> > 
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