[statecom-discuss] Fwd: Ralph Nader to speak at BostonUniversity, Tuesday December 4, 6:30 - Re

Tue Dec 4 12:20:39 EST 2007

Why do you assume/describe McKinney and Brown as "angry"?   They are both 
incredibly powerful, savvy leaders.   And they can be angry - but who amongst us 
can't?   And who of the major parties have we not seen be angry?   I am not 
Christian, but Jesus overturned the tables of money launderers - did that 
undermine his leadership?   I think it is refered to as prophetic anger - something 
we need more of, in my book, these days, not less.

Also, given that our entire society is moving toward being a plurality of 
people of oclor (even as the right wing forces do everyhting they can to try to 
stop that and certainly undermine the political participation of those 
burgeoning numbers of people of color - seems like a great time for us to get out 
front - run campaigns that reach directly to African American, Native American and 
hopefully Latino voters.   It would finally mean facing and hopefully 
beginning to overcome the subtle racism and sexism in our party about who our elected 
representatives can be and hopefully move us into the leadership position as 
a party that we need to be if we are going to actually become the party of 
change.

So bring on the leaders of color and women, and wow, maybe even women of 
color - Lets choose thoughtfully and wisely about which of these leaders can best 
model what prophetic leadership (osme times angry, mostly not but always 
non-violent) can be - and as much as possible put that leadership up side by side 
with the spun, mealy-mouthed, ungrounded, warped leadership that we usually get 
offered nationally - and see what happens!

Love, Grace
In a message dated 12/4/07 7:58:59 AM, zisk at bu.edu writes:

> I dont support Nader. But he has done a service for our party--I remember
> standing in Lexington Center in 2000 collecting signatures when the folk
> there had never heard of Greens but had heard of Nader. I agree with Dan
> that his time has passed. Though I might even vote for him again if the only
> choice were David Cobb. Please let us discuss this with some degree of
> realism. I dont think two very angry black women will get us very many
> votes. There I have said it and if you think me racist I am not: I am a
> realist I hope. I dont think Ralph is opposed to feminism; I think he is
> blissfully unaware of any issues except corporate wickedness and perhaps
> election reform. I voted for him in 2000 despite his lack of adherence to
> more of the 10kv, and I guess I might vote for him again. But I want to
> start a discussion. Anyone interested? I wld also love to hear from anyone
> committed to change but who doesnt think national electoral politics is the
> way to go at present. Peace. Betts
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: statecom-discuss-bounces at green-rainbow.org
> [mailto:statecom-discuss-bounces at green-rainbow.org]On Behalf Of
> mikeheichman at verizon.net
> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 9:23 AM
> To: statecom-discuss at green-rainbow.org
> Subject: Re: [statecom-discuss] Fwd: Ralph Nader to speak at
> BostonUniversity, Tuesday December 4, 6:30 - Re
> 
> 
> Hi Dan,
> 
> As a member of the GRP, you have the right to expess our opinion and
> support the candidate(s) of your choice. The
> State Committee has the responsibility to make sure that the opinions of
> all of our members can be expressed. Don't
> you think that there are Nader supporters in the GRP?
> 
> The State Committee has therefore decided to permit Nader to be on our
> ballo line  on February 5, even if he doesn't
> join the Green Party IF he publicly announces that he is running for the
> Gree Party nomination for president, if he
> agrees with the 10 key values and if he wants to be on the GRP ballot line
> on February 5.
> 
> If he agrees to the above, his GRP supporters will be able to vote for him.
> If he doesn't agree with the above, he will
> not be on our primary ballot.
> 
> I believe that this was a good decision by the State Committee. Othes had
> disagreed.
> 
> Mike Heichman
> 
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From:  danthbagelman at msn.com
> Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 00:18:55 -0500
> To: statecom-discuss at green-rainbow.org,
> candidate-development at green-rainbow.org, comcom at green-
> rainbow.org
> Subject: Re: [statecom-discuss] Fwd: Ralph Nader to speak at Boston
> University,Tuesday December 4, 6:30 - Re
> 
> 
> 
> Ralph Nader had his turn to run for President twice! Time to move on! Are
> we real about our desires for human rights
> and social justice then we as a party for the future have to set the
> groundwork since the Democrats are not going to.
> We have
> to show the world by our actions and our politics.  we do not get to save
> the planet by bieng like the liberals. we
> have to be set
> the way. Forward not Backward, Ralph Nader is going backwards. As a real
> lefty I cannot go this path. Ralph Nader
> has done
> some great things in his past but it is time to move on. We have two great
> woman running that can do the job with
> as much press
> as Nader  to support Nader is sexist. I have my faults but not this time!
> 
> > Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 01:17:10 -0500> From: merelice at gmail.com> To:
> statecom-discuss at green-rainbow.org;
> candidate-development at green-rainbow.org; comcom at green-rainbow.org> CC: >
> Subject: [statecom-discuss] Fwd:
> Ralph Nader to speak at Boston University, Tuesday December 4, 6:30 - Ready
> to Vote Speaker Series> >
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------> From: Matthew Zawisky
> <matt at mohawkplace.com>> Date: Dec 1,
> 2007 4:30 PM> Subject: Ralph Nader to speak at Boston University, Tuesday
> December> 4, 6:30 - Ready to Vote
> Speaker Series> To: Yarden <yen.yarden at verizon.net>, "Gully, Nigel T.
> 32GULLY"> <32GULLY at cua.edu>,
> nat.fortune at comcast.net, merelice at gmail.com> > > Ready to Vote Speaker
> Series - Ralph Nader> > Summary:
> Ready to Vote Speaker Series - Ralph Nader> > Starts: 6:30pm on Tuesday,
> December 4th 2007> > End Time:
> 9:00pm> > Location: 775 Commonwealth Avenue, Metcalf Hall -> George Sherman
> Union, Boston University> >
> Free and open to the public.> > http://www.bu.edu/archive
> s/news/centerevents.shtml>
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