[statecom-discuss] Re: [statecom] State Committee Minutes - 1/27/07

[Colby Peterson]

Dear Adam,

Decisions are made by those who show up. Had the level of political  
diversity been represented that you claim exists at the StateCom  
meeting, perhaps it wouldn't had made it into the "expedited round."  
However, you are now speaking after the fact, which is not very  
helpful at all.

The fact is that a concerned StateCom member presented a proposal to  
the group, explained the proposal to the group, and less than 75% of  
the group had concerns with the proposal, which sent it to the  
expedited round. I am sorry you are appalled that your opinion may be  
in the minority in that case at that specific State Committee  
meeting, but that's the way it goes, and clearly this was not a few  
persistent hypervocal activists, but a couple new State Committee  
members who I believe have never submitted a proposal before (I could  
be wrong), backed up by more than 75% of the present group.

Sincerely,
  Colby Peterson


On Feb 1, 2007, at 12:02 PM, Adam Sacks wrote:

> Dear Statecom -
>
> I am appalled at the statecom action in this "Expedited  
> Round" (whatever that means).  It is crystal clear from the e-mail  
> exchanges to date that there is far from general agreement on  
> Ashley's medical procedures.  Similar to the Israel-Palestine  
> issue, to me this response is utterly disrespectful of the  
> diversity of opinion expressed to date.  Nor, in my opnion, is it a  
> rational response to the actual situation, but a general outrage at  
> the trespasses of the medical system and social engineering.  That  
> outrage is frequently well-placed, but to reflexively generalize it  
> to just any circumstance is in itself beyond the pale of the  
> rational.  There are statements about Ashley's treatment that I  
> could support such as more extensive ethical review, historical  
> concerns, and suggestions of alternatives - but not condemnation of  
> any parties involved in this particular instance.
>
> But fundamentally this is not about Ashley, nor is it about IP.  It  
> is about profound lack of respect by party leadership or by a few  
> persistent hypervocal activists for people who don't get to every  
> meeting (David's comments about our not having leaders, only  
> administrators, notwithstanding).  It is about co-option by those  
> who will not tolerate disagreement that is not politically correct  
> from their perspective, and about undermining anything resembling  
> democratic process within the party.
>
> Adam
>
> BTW, I would suggest that sterilization of someone who never should
> have children (since it would only occur by rape) cannot be  
> categorized
> as genocide or eugenics, since that person would not reproduce in  
> any case.
>
>
>
> =============================
>
>
> "Expedited Round:
>
> F - Ashley Treatment Proposal
>
> Presented by Martina Robinson
>
> Ashley is a severely disabled person in Washington State whose body
> chemistry and physiology is being altered to prevent her from going
> through puberty. Martina believes that the GRP should speak out
> against this procedure because our platform is consistent with
> opposing this. The GRP should issue a press release or statement that
> condemns this issue and offers alternatives.
>
> David Rolde and Elie Yarden agreed that we should condemn the medical
> industry that allowed this to happen and not the parents.
>
> Wanda Boeke asked if the recommendations of the medical profession
> were followed.
>
> Gary Hicks said that anything that goes into this statement must
> relate that "this kind of crap" was going on for a long time, i.e.
> eugenics.
>
> Q: Colby Peterson asked if this has already happened:
> A: Yes, it happened on January 6th.
>
> There was a fast-paced rules and procedures discussion that  
> degenerated.
>
> The proposal moves to AdCom.
> Annie Butler trusts that the AdCom and Martina can work out the  
> wording."
>
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