[statecom-discuss] Re: List needed ASAP of voters Arlington, Acton,
Wayland, Agawam Medford, Hampshire, Somerville
Ron Francis
ronwf777 at yahoo.com
Thu Mar 1 23:56:35 EST 2007
I agree Jamie.
But we should respect the notion that reasonable requirements about list usage be respected by people given contact information.
Ron
Jamie O'Keefe <jokeefe at jamesokeefe.org> wrote: [Removing 2006team at green-rainbow.org, since that is an inactive list]
I agree with you Eli that we need to have better ways of sharing db
updates. Part of the solution is to put together a supporter database
that can be shared by chapters and campaigns.
Jamie
On 3/1/07, Eli Beckerman wrote:
> Ron, I don't have easy access to the campaign database (I'd have to go
> to Lexington), but apart from that, I want to raise some concerns with
> the process here.
>
> At the last Tech Committee meeting we discussed the need for a)
> cleaning up the GRP database and b) having a process for the use of
> those lists. Jill's campaign is going to be giving the GRP her list.
> The Tech Committee will be getting info from the various campaigns and
> then paying for a service to get them cleaned up. And I learned that
> we do have a process for use of the GRP database (though I'm not
> familiar with it).
>
> I think it's crucial that lists get cleaned up as they get used --
> that any calls made get fed back into the originating list. If someone
> says "stop calling me, I hate the Green-Rainbow Party" that needs to
> get propagated back up the chain.
>
> I think it's also important for calls to happen in a coordinated
> fashion -- that we don't have 4 different working committees making
> calls about 4 different things in the same week. In the Membership
> Committee we talked about trying to build synergies into the phone
> calls made -- getting local people to make fundraising calls (and to
> build the party locally at the same time). The Membership Committee
> should be taking on the type of request you are asking for -- but we
> were going to wait until the database has been updated. Another
> difference is that I imagine we would give the local lists to people
> in that area -- not to a Somerville GRP member who is pursuing an
> ad-hoc statewide initiative. But I'd be interested to see what the
> policy actually is.
>
> In one case someone has actually left the party because of the
> confusion in getting a call regarding one of your statewide organizing
> initiatives and feeling excluded from the party's decision-making and
> feeling that it wasn't very grassroots for the West Somerville GRP to
> be telling them they knew how they should be organizing their local.
>
> Another concern I have is why isn't this happening through the
> Membership Committee in the first place?
>
> eli
>
> On 3/1/07, Ron Francis wrote:
> > I asked Pat about list info for varoouis cities and he responded:
> >
> > pkeaney
wrote:
> >
> > Jill has that info. You could probably get it from Eli Beckerman.
> > Sorry for the delay - I'm in Chiapas, returning 3/7.
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> >
> > ==> From: Ron Francis
> > ==> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:36:38 -0800 (PST)
> >
> > hey Pat, Do you have the names and contact info for registered
> > voters in Arlington, Acton, Waltham and Agawam ?
> >
> > If I recall your
> > Somerville names also had phone numbers which is critical, but what I
> > really need is the names of all GRP's in each of the above towns and
> > contact info if possible. Each of these towns has people who are
> > interested in starting / revitalizing a GRP chapter using the Nuts
> > and Bolts modeled first run in West Somerville.... another 6 to 10
> > towns will also be needed.
> >
> > Ron 617 230-2835
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks Pat for the forward reference to Eli and Jill for a list of
> > registered voters,.. and will look forward to your report from Chiapas...
> >
> > Turns out now that I'll also need Hampshire, and Medford now as more and
> > more people are interestred in the Local Organizing Initiative (LOI).
> >
> > It's very encouraging that people are willing to try the WSGRP Nuts and
> > Bolts model that Michelle and I developed in their own communities. As I
> > indicated over a year ago, there isn't any reason why we can't have active
> > and/or reinvigorated locals in 20 more towns using the Nuts and Bolts model
> > by the end of the year, ... and as the data comes in I'm becoming a
> > believer;... people want to do it and it's just great !!
> >
> > I was going to just get the lists from city halls and then do a phone search
> > but that will cost about $20 per town ! (It's crazy that you have to pay
> > to get lists....). By the way, our Secretary of State candidates in the
> > future should change that .... it's outrageous that a citizen has to pay for
> > the address info of other registered voters when the info is basically cost
> > free to obtain. Anyway...save that battle for another day !
> >
> > If any of the committees, or of the statewide campaigns, have the info for
> > people in the above 7 communities, can they please forwarded to the Local
> > Organizing Initiative (Jon, Bagelman, Michelle, Jenna and I). I did obtain
> > info for Somerville last fall and that was helpful....
> >
> > One of the reasons we did the statewide campaigns was to get local contact
> > info so that people who want to do various local organizing would have a
> > better chance of doing it... but that doesn't work if we don't have the
> > basic contact info ! It would help if the various campaigns and anyone who
> > has contact info can pass it along....
> >
> > Jamie is putting together an updated list for Somerville by the way, so
> > please add Somerville as the 7th town where local information is needed.
> >
> > We would like to begin outreach this weekend as the people in 4 of the above
> > 7 communities are ready to go ! and we just need the lists to execute the
> > model. If the info can be gotten to us by tomorrow, than that would help.
> > It is not critical that the lists be 100 % accurate. We did fine in
> > Somerville with a 35% accuracy rate for our lists...
> >
> > thanks so much for your help and hopefully prompt reply
> >
> > ron 617 230-2835
> >
> >
>
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James O'Keefe
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