Adcom endorsesRe: [statecom-discuss] draft ideas for July State Comm. meeting

Ron Francis ronwf777 at yahoo.com
Sun May 20 14:59:47 EDT 2007


Agree with Grace....
but will add that Statecom reserves the power to disendorse if a statecom meeting comes before the actual event....

Ron

Gracegrnrnbw at aol.com wrote: I amm not sure why some people (including those who have been on adcom) don't 
remember that adcom does endorsements.   This is indeed a responsibility of 
adcom - has since adcomm first existed- why?

Because endorsements need to happen reasonably quickly (not once every three 
months)
Given that we have defined politics (10 Key values), this is an 
implementation function
It is hard enough getting a quorum of adcom to respond quickly, getting a 
quorum of statecom to respond - well it's mind boogling.

Many endorsements get no concerns raised by anyone - why would we spend even 
more volunteer hours getting "no concerns" from even more people when there 
are no concerns?
Those endorsements that do lead to someone raising concerns, are generally 
answered easily and quickly
those endorsements that lead to significant concerns seem to sit on the edge 
of our politics , those sometimes lead to a long discussion or just as often 
get sent onto statecom - as they appear to represent more than just the 
implementation of existing Party political positions.

For those who favor less time begin spent (that is fewer volunteer hours) on 
statewide work should vigorously support this function staying with adcom.   
Love, Grace
In a message dated 5/20/07 5:42:35 AM, ronwf777 at yahoo.com writes:


> agree with Merelice
> 
> Merelice  wrote: Mike,
> I would be more than happy to consider these subjects. But I believe
> you have lumped too much into one email. At least for me it is very
> daunting to try to respond to everything you have mentioned. Also,
> some of these suggestions require by-law changes which will have to be
> prepared by StateCom in time for the state convention since I believe
> that is a state convention function. I could be wrong.
> 
> I would find it helpful if you narrowed down to a series of emails,
> each with a more specific subject for discussion.
> 
> Some preliminary thoughts:
> 
> Our current by-laws actually contain too much detail which in some
> cases should be removed altogether. Many items belong in a procedure
> document instead. One example is spelling out the agenda for statecom
> meetings. So every time we plan a statecom meeting that deviates even
> slightly, the first thing we need to do at the meeting is discuss
> suspending the bylaws for that meeting.
> 
> By the way, I wonder why you think that endorsements are the
> responsibility of the AdCom. Endorsements are not really an
> administrative responsibility, and I don't believe they are specified
> among AdCom responsibilities in the bylaws. I think they have been
> done by AdCom because they are business that comes up between statecom
> meetings. If we had an active External Relations Committee, that would
> likely be an appropriate committee to consider endorsements. (Just to
> confirm, I assume you are referring to endorsements of actions and
> positions, not candidates.)
> 
> On 5/18/07, mikeheichman at verizon.net  wrote:
> > DRAFT IDEAS FOR THE JULY STATE COMM. MEETING
> >
> > May 18, 2007
> >
> > Dear State Comm. Members:
> >
> > The next meeting of the State Committee will be scheduled for sometime in
> > July. Yesterday Eli Beckerman sent out a
> > message asking us to decide on a new date and to start thinking about
> > making proposals.......[etc]
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