[statecom-discuss] Re: [Membership] Re: Message that we need to get out on October 27.

[Jamie O'Keefe]

Eli said it a far sight better than I would.  But to elaborate on his
last too points with my own opinions:

1)  We seem to be very inward looking.  We need to change that if we
are to expand and become the force for ecological and social change
our world and country need. SPWG is another great attempt at getting
us to communicate more and look outward.

2)  We need campaigns and events where Green-Rainbows can organize,
connect and support one another.  We also need to get better at
actually carrying out such efforts.  We won't get better if we don't
try.  We will learn from this event and take these lessons to our
future organizing efforts.

Jamie

On 10/25/07, Eli Beckerman <elibeck at gmail.com> wrote:
> Sorry Gary, that this email was not answered. The best answer that I can
> come up with is that at a time when the Democrats could not be a better
> advertisement for our Party, at a time when the economic, ecological,
> political, and social circumstances in New England and the world could not
> set the stage more dramatically for our Party, and at a time when 10,000
> people from across New England are expected to come to Boston -- hundreds if
> not thousands of them being Greens or something close -- if we DON'T
> organize around this event and try to create a visible contingent and get
> our message out, then we are simply not serious about our intention to build
> a political alternative. I can't pretend that my contribution to this
> "organizing" can be regarded as "serious" but I can promise you that my
> intentions are. And I could not be more thankful to the small handful of
> people who have taken this seriously, and because of them we will have a
> space to gather and reflect after the rally, and we will have the most
> visible Green/Rainbow contingent we have ever had at one of these demos
> locally. Will it be polished? Far from it. But the more people who step
> forward -- even now, 2 days before the rally -- to help move it along, the
> better it will be.
>
> To answer your question a little more directly -
> 1. visibility as the Green-Rainbow Party and New England Green Parties and
> 2. baby steps toward the "Organize" in "Vote and Organize!"
>
> Peace,
> Eli
>
> On 10/18/07, gary hicks <gooberthink06 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > all:
> >
> > i got lost somewhere in this thread ---------------------EXACTLY WHAT DOES
> GREEN-RAINBOW WANT TO GET OUT OF THIS PROPOSED ACTION?
> >
> > gh
> >
> > Jamie O'Keefe <jokeefe at jamesokeefe.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi John,
> >
> > > I respect your personal views BUT don't you think this should be
> > > decided by some group or committee.
> >
> > Of course. A small group of people are doing the organizing. None of
> > us want it that way. Thanks for stepping up to help with organizing
> > such a group. :-) It would really help if someone would call the
> > local chapters listed on our web site and see whether they can help
> > with this effort.
> >
> > > You seem to be advocating a timid approach.
> >
> > I don't propose a timid approach.
> >
> > I would love us to have a speaker there exhorting those assembled to
> > not go with the Dems but to go with us instead. However, the party
> > decided to pull out of UJP over a year ago and so we didn't have
> > representation when this came about and weren't there at the start to
> > get one of our own in the speakers list.
> >
> > That is water under the bridge. Right now organizing ourselves so
> > that we can have the largest contingent most visible contingent we can
> > get with a well stated, well defined message that does not kowtow to
> > the Dems is, in my mind, the most important thing we can do.
> >
> > We could create our own march afterwards, but there is a Palestine
> > rally in Copley Sq. we may decide to attend and we do have a GP/GRP
> > social/fundraiser that, several of us believe, would be an important
> > tool to organize ourselves and just plain have some fun. I would
> > rather we had 70+ people at our social all meeting one another and
> > talking about where we go from here than doing another march that
> > won't get us much attention.
> >
> > It would be nice to have record of additional people we can go back to
> > for future efforts and events. We get that from the social.
> >
> > > Has anyone gone to organizing meetings for the event representing the
> Greens?
> >
> > Yes. Eli and a member of the GP of RI have stepped forward to do it.
> > I have called on members of state com to attend these meetings several
> > times.
> >
> > I appreciate and sympathize with your comments and feeling. Please
> > realize we are volunteers doing what we can do with what we have.
> >
> > peace,
> >
> > Jamie
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peace,

Jamie
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James O'Keefe
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