[statecom-discuss] Re: [Needtoknow] Self-declared Demogreens!

[BillCunningham]

Jamie,

Yes, but who or what is "MIT Green Party"? How come it has never been listed as cosponsoring any peace events at MIT? Where was it at Saturday's peace demo? Why has it never made contact with our local in Cambridge? 

When there were Campus Green chapters at Harvard and MIT before, they were in full communication with GRP and our locals.

Neither of the individuals mentioned has ever, to my knowledge, contacted MRGRA or offered to help us in any way. We haven't shunned them. Do you know why they are shunning us? 

Goddammit, this is NOT O.K. 


-----Original Message-----
>From: Jamie O'Keefe <jokeefe at jamesokeefe.org>
>Sent: Oct 28, 2007 1:34 AM
>To: Discussion List for StateCom members <statecom-discuss at green-rainbow.org>
>Subject: Re: [statecom-discuss] Re: [Needtoknow] Self-declared Demogreens!
>
>I know both folks listed from MA and I will not shun them.  I disagree
>with their strategy, but I see no benefit to separating ourselves from
>our fellow members or folks who believe in many of the things we do,
>but disagree over the methods.
>
>We can strongly state our positions and work hard to achieve them
>while not being insular and intolerant.  Choosing not to talk with
>folks who support us on some but not all issues or methods is unlikely
>to help us build our party or  make it inviting for potential members.
>
>Jamie
>
>On 10/27/07, Mike Heichman <mikeheichman at verizon.net> wrote:
>> Hi Statecom:
>>
>> I'm forwarding this from John Walsh FYI.
>>
>> Mike Heichman
>>
>>
>> John Walsh wrote:
>>
>> >Here is a self-declared list of DemoGreens.
>> >The ones MA, where I live, I have never heard of.  They have never
>> >lifted a finger for the Dems.  And Norman Solomon is increasingly
>> >little different from the other Norman - Podhoretz.
>> >These people should be shunned along with any of their friends.
>> >Barfo.
>> >john walsh (MA delegate)
>> >***
>> >Greens for Impact is an organization of principled, pragmatic Green
>> >Party members and progressive populists dedicated to working
>> >cooperatively with others to defeat the rightwing extremists who exert
>> >undue and dangerous influence on our government and the media. We
>> >believe this can be done while simultaneously furthering the growth of
>> >the Green Party as an independent alternative to the
>> >corporate-dominated parties.
>> >
>> >We believe that this agenda is most-readily forwarded by a strategy
>> >designed to maximize the Green Party's impact. Greens for Impact works
>> >to:
>> >
>> >____________________________________________________________________________________
>> >
>> >Encourage voters to register Green,
>> >Encourage voters in safe seat races -- those that are so
>> >overwhelmingly Republican or Democratic that we can be confident today
>> >of who will win there on election day -- to vote for Green Party
>> >candidates,
>> >Encourage voters in swing seat races, where every progressive vote is
>> >needed to defeat the rightwing candidates, to vote for the Democratic
>> >candidates, and
>> >Actively and forcefully push for the use of instant runoff voting
>> >(IRV) wherever suitable, alongside ballot access reform and full
>> >public financing of campaigns.
>> >____________________________________________________________________________________
>> >
>> >Greens for Impact do not believe that elections are merely public
>> >debates about voting your fears or voting your conscience. They are
>> >not academic or theoretical exercises. Real people's lives are at
>> >stake. Women, people of color, the GLBT community, our nation's poor,
>> >and many others, save for the privileged few, will face real
>> >consequences from the outcome of elections. As a result, we must view
>> >the effect of our votes collectively, not merely by what they mean to
>> >us as individuals. Vote with your mind. Vote with a plan.
>> >
>> >We encourage sympathetic Greens, especially elected members of the
>> >GPUS, to contact us and lend support. It is our desire that as our
>> >ranks swell our voices will be heard in the most highly contested
>> >races, and that Democratic leaders will hear our calls for electoral
>> >reform -- to support instant runoff voting, proportional voting, full
>> >public financing, and fair ballot access laws. When electoral margins
>> >are slim, our collective voice can have an IMPACT. Please join our
>> >movement today!
>> >
>> >Austin King
>> >Austin King, GFI Chair
>> >Madison, Wisconsin
>> >8th District Alderperson,
>> >Common Council of Madison
>> >
>> >Art Goodtimes
>> >Art Goodtimes, GFI Supporter
>> >Telluride, Colorado
>> >San Miguel County Commissioner
>> >Third District, Green
>> >
>> >Riana Good
>> >Riana Good, GFI Supporter
>> >Providence, Rhode Island
>> >Fmr. Co-Chair, RI Green Party
>> >Fmr. Chair, Brown Univ. Greens
>> >
>> >Scot t Burger
>> >Scott Burger, GFI Supporter
>> >Richmond, Virginia
>> >Chair, Richmond Green Party
>> >
>> >Russell Kilday-Hicks
>> >Russell Kilday-Hicks, GFI Supporter
>> >Berkeley, California
>> >Green Focus (Design/Layout/Copy Editor)
>> >
>> >Gregory Dennis
>> >Gregory Dennis, GFI Supporter
>> >Cambridge, Massachusetts
>> >President, MIT Green Party
>> >
>> >George Grosch
>> >George Grosch, GFI Supporter
>> >Corvallis, Oregon
>> >Corvallis City Council Ward 3
>> >
>> >Xander Patterson
>> >Xander Patterson, GFI Supporter
>> >Portland, Oregon
>> >Director and Treasurer,
>> >East Multnomah Soil & Water Conservation District
>> >
>> >Diane White
>> >Diane White, GFI Supporter
>> >Harrisburg, Pennsylvania
>> >Black Caucus Org. Committee
>> >2001 Mayoral Candidate
>> >Pennsylvania Nat'l Delegate
>> >
>> >Scott McGinley
>> >Scott McGinley, GFI Supporter
>> >Springfield, Massachusetts
>> >Fmr. Del. to State Committee,
>> >Co-Founder, Hadley, MA Party
>> >
>> >Nelson Cone
>> >Nelson Cone, GFI Supporter
>> >Clallam County, Washington
>> >Green Party County Facilitator
>> >
>> >Norman Solomon
>> >Norman Solomon, GFI Supporter
>> >San Francisco, California
>> >Syndicated Columnist, Author
>> >
>> >David Wilcox
>> >David Wilcox, GFI Supporter
>> >DuPage County, Illinois
>> >Co-Chair, Illinois Green Party
>> >
>> >Bob Kinsey
>> >Bob Kinsey, GFI Supporter
>> >Fort Collins, Colorado
>> >Congressional Candidate, CO-4
>> >
>> >Dave Chandler
>> >Dave Chandler, GFI Supporter
>> >Jefferson County, Colorado
>> >Chair, Jefferson County Greens
>> >
>> >John Anastasio
>> >John Anastasio, GFI Supporter
>> >Marin County, California
>> >Co-Coordinator, Green Party of Marin
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>
>Jamie
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Bill Cunningham