[statecom-discuss] Re: [Needtoknow] Self-declared Demogreens!

[BillCunningham]

I was about to expound on the relation between the Campus Green Network, the GPUS, and the State parties when Aimee Smith called to chat. She said that the info passed on to JW is way out of date. GFI apparently no longer exists. The fellow listed as Pres of MIT Greens left that institution in 2004. 

-----Original Message-----
>From: Merelice <merelice at gmail.com>
>Sent: Oct 28, 2007 4:58 PM
>To: BillCunningham <etwee at earthlink.net>, Discussion List for StateCom members <statecom-discuss at green-rainbow.org>
>Subject: Re: [statecom-discuss] Re: [Needtoknow] Self-declared Demogreens!
>
>Greetings,
>
>1 - Is there a possibility that the MIT Greens is currently only a
>paper organization?
>
>2 - When was the last time the GRP was in touch with college campuses
>to see whether a current Campus Green Chapter even exists?
>
>3 - How would a campus chapter know how to be in touch with us or with
>a local chapter?
>
>The blame is likely a two-way street.
>
>Like Jamie, although I clearly disagree with their strategy, I believe
>shunning is not a solution. Instead, we should give people a reason to
>change their belief by their being associated with people who are
>accomplishing something different. This puts the responsibility on us
>to spend our time making sure we ARE accomplishing something and being
>relevant to the people we wish to attract. Haranguing, harassing, and
>shunning rarely succeed in persuading and influencing.
>
>Merelice
>
>
>On 10/28/07, BillCunningham <etwee at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Jamie,
>>
>> Yes, but who or what is "MIT Green Party"? How come it has never been listed as cosponsoring any peace events at MIT? Where was it at Saturday's peace demo? Why has it never made contact with our local in Cambridge?
>>
>> When there were Campus Green chapters at Harvard and MIT before, they were in full communication with GRP and our locals.
>>
>> Neither of the individuals mentioned has ever, to my knowledge, contacted MRGRA or offered to help us in any way. We haven't shunned them. Do you know why they are shunning us?
>>
>> Goddammit, this is NOT O.K.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> >From: Jamie O'Keefe <jokeefe at jamesokeefe.org>
>> >Sent: Oct 28, 2007 1:34 AM
>> >To: Discussion List for StateCom members <statecom-discuss at green-rainbow.org>
>> >Subject: Re: [statecom-discuss] Re: [Needtoknow] Self-declared Demogreens!
>> >
>> >I know both folks listed from MA and I will not shun them.  I disagree
>> >with their strategy, but I see no benefit to separating ourselves from
>> >our fellow members or folks who believe in many of the things we do,
>> >but disagree over the methods.
>> >
>> >We can strongly state our positions and work hard to achieve them
>> >while not being insular and intolerant.  Choosing not to talk with
>> >folks who support us on some but not all issues or methods is unlikely
>> >to help us build our party or  make it inviting for potential members.
>> >
>> >Jamie


Bill Cunningham