[statecom-discuss] Clarifying the StateCom meeting re presidential candidates

[Gracegrnrnbw at aol.com]

Only the uncommitted delegates get decided in April - the others are all 
assigned well before that, in fact before the brief statecom meeting you and Dan 
will have in March.

So CDLC will have a delegate selection plan to follow that does not address 
candidates that are withdrawn or draft - Grace
In a message dated 2/4/08 2:53:46 PM, merelice at gmail.com writes:


> Mike,
> 
> I'm puzzled about why you haven't focused on the fact that one of your
> other proposals was ranked first and quickly passed with consensus.
> Further, that proposal has much more potential for actually growing
> the party than anything the presidential race can do. How about
> looking forward to implementing a proposal that got agreement instead
> of ruminating over the proposal that didn't get agreement?
> 
> Regarding the proposal that you continue to argue about: You were
> given extraordinary opportunity to present that proposal in advance at
> the StateCom meeting. The agenda was changed so you could do so. You
> have no right to accuse me personally (or the co-chairs and
> co-facilitators) of NOT deciding to come up with the solution you
> sought. The whole body of some 25 StateCom members determined the
> ranking of your proposal.
> 
> While it is true that we did not have time to come to an official
> vote, the message of the straw vote was amply clear. To ignore that
> would be irresponsible. I, for one, was very grateful we got at least
> that far and would have loved to have time to make it official. Every
> person around the table had an opportunity to express her/his view.
> That, too, was a change from the usual procedure and an
> acknowledgement that your proposal needed to get everyone's attention.
> 
> Given what you heard, you can't really believe that an official vote
> would have produced a different result. And given what you heard,
> there was considerable guidance regarding how we treat the results of
> the primary: Many spoke on behalf of giving all the candidates --
> including the two who have withdrawn -- the delegates that they earn
> in the primary.
> 
> If people don't agree with that analysis, there is another StateCom
> meeting before the July convention delegates get appointed. That was
> another reason your proposal did not qualify as "urgent" -- though, as
> mentioned above, you were still given extra consideration.
> 
> Merelice
> 
> 
> On 2/4/08, mikeheichman at verizon.net <mikeheichman at verizon.net> wrote:
> > Hi Merelice:
> >
> >  Entering the January 27 State Comm meeting, there was a controversy about
> >  what our policy was about the whole
> >  issue of who on our ballot is a candidate, who is entitled to delegates,
> >  etc.
> >
> >  While it is true that the State Comm did not agree that this was an 
> "urgent
> >  matter" and while it is true that the
> >  discussion that took place was not favorable to my remedy, NO DECISIONS
> >  WERE MADE AT THE MEETING ABOUT THE
> >  ISSUES THAT WE DISAGREE ABOUT. We ran out of time. I also believe that 
> this
> >  was probably the intention of some of
> >  the members of State Comm.
> >
> >  If I am wrong, please ask the Secretary to send out the minutes ASAP and
> >  then please show me and the rest of the
> >  State Comm. what issues of controversy were decided.
> >
> >  After our primary, CDLC and Adcom will be called upon to make decisions
> >  without the appropriate guidance of the
> >  last State Committee. Specifically, what should the CDLC and Adcom do 
> about
> >  apportioning delegates to the
> >  campaigns of Mr. Ball, Ms. Brown and Mr. Nader--2 of them are no longer
> >  candidates and one of them has just
> >  established an Exploratory Committee.
> >
> >  That was the "urgent business" which I asked the State Comm. to address.
> >  The fact that it didn't come up with a
> >  remedy does not magically mean that the controversy has been decided.
> >
> >  This is not about our differences of opinion. This is about the State 
> Comm,
> >  under your active leadership in this area
> >  deciding NOT to come up with a decision.
> >
> >  Mike Heichman
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