[statecom] A note from your new facilitators: on the purpose of this virtual meeting

[Lawrence Fine]

Originally it was the appointing of facilitators - - - do you have  
any proposals?

Speaking of voting, how did proposals that were not the purpose of  
the virtual meeting get added to its agenda?

Should this question also be addressed to <procedures>?


On Jul 2, 2008, at 5:12 PM, gary hicks wrote:

> lawrence:
>
> we could move directly to a vote as soon as we figure out what  
> we're voting on. :)  gh
>
> --- On Mon, 6/30/08, Lawrence Fine <lorenzonine at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> From: Lawrence Fine <lorenzonine at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [statecom] A note from your new facilitators: on the  
> purpose of this virtual meeting
> To: "State Committee Official Business" <statecom at green-rainbow.org>
> Date: Monday, June 30, 2008, 10:32 PM
>
> Is it time to submit another proposal that contradicts the reason
> this meeting was convened or:
>
> go directly to a vote?
>
> May I move to go directly to a vote?
>
>
>
> On Jun 30, 2008, at 10:20 PM, Gracegrnrnbw at aol.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Eli, for offering to serve as facilitator.
>>
>> As thisi s a separate meting with its own participants and quorum,
>> there is
>> no way I can figure out that another emeting can decide for this
>> emeting who
>> its facilitators are or chage the agenda from the outside.
>>
>> In addiiton, I was at the in-person statecom meeting on Sunday when
>> all
>> proposals were presented for ranking and neither of these proposals
>> were submitted
>> - there was therefore not advance notification of these on the
>> agenda nor were
>> the proposed from the floor for consideration after all other
>> proposal were
>> decided if time allowed.
>>
>> Neither was the delegation presented in the proposal presentations
>> for the
>> agenda for the day -
>>
>> I appreciate the frustration we are all experiencing and the  
>> desire to
>> expedite things, but we cannot do it in a way that violates the
>> rights of
>> decision-makers to be notified so that they can participate in
>> decision-making...
>>
>> -Grace
>> In a message dated 6/30/08 6:31:25 PM, elibeck at gmail.com writes:
>>
>>
>>> Dear State Committee,
>>>
>>> Many thanks to Jamie O'Keefe for the time and effort put into
>>> facilitating this meeting to this point. Perhaps he will feel a  
>>> sense
>>> of relief in no longer holding that thankless responsibility.
>>>
>>> Following the expressed wishes of yesterday's (6/29) State
> Committee
>>> meeting, we (Wanda Boeke and Eli Beckerman) are stepping forward
>>> as the new StateCom-appointed co-facilitators of the virtual meeting
>>> to continue this process.
>>>
>>> According to a number of decisions made at the 6/29 State Committee
>>> meeting that impact proposals A, 1, 2, and 3, we consider all of  
>>> them
>>> to be closed. The full text of all of the proposals passed at
>>> yesterday's
>>> meeting will be sent out as soon as possible (hopefully tonight).
>>>
>>> We would like to issue a clarification on the purpose of this
>>> meeting.
>>> The State Committee decided yesterday to accept the delegation
>>> put forward to this date, finding no valid reason to delay
>>> notification
>>> to those who have volunteered themselves as MA delegates to the
>>> Green Party nominating convention, neither to deny participation
>>> based upon skin color or income or gender or sexual preference, or
>>> whatever other privileged advantage such participants have been
>>> blessed or cursed with.
>>>
>>> Since the delegation is still not complete, we are keeping this
>>> meeting
>>> open for the sole purpose of adding delegates and alternates  
>>> until we
>>> reach a total of 32 delegates and 32 alternates. We encourage the
>>> remaining slots be used to strengthen the diversity of the MA
>>> delegation.
>>> We may further ask full delegates to switch to being alternates in
>>> instances
>>> where that may strengthen the delegation's diversity. We are also
>>> undertaking
>>> steps to ensure that delegation members may be approved as they step
>>> forward.
>>> We acknowledge that our delegation is not representative of the
>>> state of
>>> Massachusetts and commit to making strides towards being more
>>> representative of all the people of this Commonwealth as we move
>>> forward together.
>>>
>>> In hope,
>>> Wanda Boeke and Eli Beckerman
>>>
>>> PS: Please refer for now to the incomplete recounting of decisions
>>> sent out:
>>> http://www.green-rainbow.org/pipermail/statecom/2008-June/ 
>>> 008742.html
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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