[statecom] [adcom] Is: quorum; Was Re: Important question Re: credentialing new StateCom reps

[Jim Hammerman]

Hi all,
I understand from Dan's email that the first thing we're doing as part of 
this virtual StateCom meeting is being sure that we know what it means to 
have a quorum by being sure that we know who is on StateCom through the 
credentialing process. Once we know just who's on StateCom and have the 
count of how many that is, then as long as 50% of them chime in on any 
vote sent out, we've reached quorum. 

The _content_ of any vote should be that a minimum of 2/3 of those voting 
vote yes or stand aside with their concerns, with the hope of course that 
we can reach consensus on any vote.

Is that right, Dan?
Best, Jim




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Dan,

I really don't want to be a noodge, but what you say below tells me
that quorum (unlike with an in-person meeting) is determined NOT prior
to announcing that the meeting is in session NOR prior to actually
conducting business, but as part of the voting process -- which is
what I have been saying all along.

And then, when it comes time to "vote" by indicating whether there are
or are not concerns, the number of people needed to pass is the same
as determining that there is a quorum present.  So the vote and the
quorum amount to the same thing. Does that mean that the number
required to "vote" is the rounded number of half, which is different
from the two-thirds needed for an online vote (as opposed to an online
meeting)? That would be a strange inconsistency.

Where, actually are the procedures for these two types of online
Statecom sessions? I know I've read them before, and I've looked for
them again, so far unsuccessfully. If I read and understand them, I
can stop bugging you. If the Co-chairs don't understand, I don't know
how we can expect the rest of the State Committee to follow this.

Thanks,
Merelice



On 6/20/08, Daniel Melnechuk <isis at isisdesign.com> wrote:
> Hi Merelice,
>
>  To determine quorum for a virtual meeting is similar to a physical
>  meeting. In a physical meeting you look around the room to count if
>  we actually have quorum when we come to asking the question, "are
>  there any remaining concerns?" In physical meetings reps can come and
>  go for parts of the meeting but as long as we have a quorum when we
>  get to making the decision, then the decision is valid.
>
>  So in a virtual meeting, the proposal is put out to make a decision
>  and in that proposal is a response section which essentially asks
>  "are there any remaining concerns?" People can answer with one of 3
>  responses:
>
>         a) No concerns (equivalent to being quiet at a physical meeting)
>         b) Yes Concerns but stand aside (shortcut about willing to stand
>  aside), list concerns for record
>         c) Yes Concerns, list concerns
>
>  Once we get a quorum number of responses in email or by phone talking
>  to a rep, then if all are No Concern or Yes Concerns but stand aside
>  responses, the proposal is passed. If there are concerns where people
>  are not willing to stand aside, then the facilitator will need to try
>  to get those concerns addressed according to our decisionmaking
>  procedure. And if the proposal is changed, that would result in
>  another consensus ballot being sent out to respond to the modified
>  proposal.
>
>  Hope that clarifies it.
>
>  Peace,
>  Dan
>
>
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