[statecom] Facilitation to build trust--Please apologize, John

Fri Jun 27 17:53:12 EDT 2008

Jim.

The heat has risen and the tendency for people in both camps to boil  
over is understandable.
My thoughts and feelings are that this battle has grown out of a  
minorities unwillingness to accept the results of a legitimate  
process called voting.
I believe no party will find comfort in this process.

I would agree on the visibility of Grace, and understand the  
foundations of your admiration for her, however there were issues  
that had been supported by Grace that garnered disrespect and
controversies. If there is any one person that

> " has made the Green Rainbow party and its
> positions visible and respected among a wide swath of voters in the
> Commonwealth "

I assert that person is Jill Stein.

Please research the links below for publicly accepted information and  
opinions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_Ros
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jill_Stein

finally, I really don't understand why there is such a battle going  
on in the first place as Cyntha McKinney is the presumed Green Party  
candidate for president.
My favored candidate, Ralph Nader is running as an independent ( and  
I'm understanding more and more why he did not accept the nomination  
of this party - - - good grief - - -LOOK AT US ! ! ! )
What will the results of this infighting, backbiting, underdog /  
overhog passiv and agressive manipulation negativity and hostility be?
Who REALLY cares, and WHY, who the Green Parties candidate for  
president of this horrible mess the United States has turned into  
will be?
Like - - - ONE PERSON will make that much of a difference if any at  
all given the state of affairs? It will take ALL OF US choosing a  
path leading to a "sustainable green future " and not some
wooden figurehead to credit or blame for the good and bad.
We should all take a BROMO - - - and a long swim.

On Jun 27, 2008, at 4:55 PM, Jim Hammerman wrote:

> Dear John,
> This sort of personal attack against the integrity of a member of our
> party is unconscionable, especially that it's levied against a  
> woman who,
> in running for Governor, has made the Green Rainbow party and its
> positions visible and respected among a wide swath of voters in the
> Commonwealth. I request that you apologize to Grace and to others  
> of us
> who you have disparaged over these lists because we happen to disagree
> with you and your vision of what the party should be doing and how it
> should run.
>
> My experience is that the vitriole (like this) that you and others  
> put out
> against people who disagree with you and won't just go along with  
> you is
> so disrespectful of diverse opinions and diversity more broadly  
> that it
> severely undercuts the possibility of constructive political discourse
> that works towards building a better society. Any talk of  
> "undermining"
> the party must surely address this kind of nastiness which shuts down
> conversations and silences divergent voices from which we can learn.
>
> Furthermore, you propose to throw out existing rules about seating  
> State
> Committee members because you would find seating these folks  
> uncomfortable
> or perhaps undermining of your own political plans and preferences.  
> That
> may be easy for you to say because you are privileged enough and  
> powerful
> enough to feel that the rules can be bent when it suits you. However,
> rules are created to level the playing field, to allow those who don't
> otherwise have strings to pull to know how the game is played and that
> they can find a way to participate and know what to expect.
>
> The 22 proposed new members of State Committee volunteered to  
> participate
> because they understood that, when nominated by two GRP members,
> especially those in their region or identity caucus, that the party
> welcomes their participation and that their seating would,  
> typically, be
> pro forma. By refusing to seat them, we've changed the rules out from
> under them. Is this "transparency"? The fact that these 22 are more
> diverse than the currently seated StateCom--more women, more people of
> color, more low income, more GLBT, etc.-- may be part of why it  
> feels like
> "a takeover" to you. While you claim to be worried about partisanship,
> it's not clear that the issue isn't one of privilege feeling  
> uncomfortable
> in the face of power on the part of the usually less privileged.  
> I'd urge
> you to examine within yourself whether that may be some of what is  
> going
> on for you.
>
> Finally, your name has been put forward as a potential "Uncommitted"
> delegate, but you've previously expressed your support for Nader. This
> makes me suspicious of your real preferences, and wonder whether
> accusations about others seeking "partisan advantage" may mask some  
> of the
> same goals and behaviors on your part. But maybe you've switched your
> support and no longer support Nader? If so, I'd like to hear more  
> about
> that.
>
> In struggle,
> Jim
>
>
>
>
> "John Andrews" <jandrews166 at gmail.com>
> Sent by: statecom-bounces at green-rainbow.org
> 06/27/08 03:47 PM
> Please respond to
> State Committee Official Business <statecom at green-rainbow.org>
>
>
> To
> "State Committee Official Business" <statecom at green-rainbow.org>
> cc
>
> Subject
> Re: [statecom] Facilitation to build trust
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The disingenuous  nature of the note below is probably clear to most
> members
> of State Committee.
>
> Given her repeated attempts to undermine our convention and our Party
> committees, and to facilitate attacks from outside the Green-Rainbow
> Party,
> I do not think that Grace Ross should be allowed to appoint herself  
> to any
> effort to define solutions for State Committee.     If we are going to
> make
> progress we must first get some honest answers from Grace about the  
> dirty
> tricks she has played during the presidential campaign and about her
> organizing against State Committee.  We don't need more emails.  We  
> need
> face-to-face questions and answers, and a little honesty.
>
> In terms of allowing Grace's recruits to take seats on State  
> committee, I
> feel it is important to have a conclusive investigation to determine
> whether
> this is or is not part of an organized attempt to engineer a partisan
> takeover of State Committee in order to win more delegates for a
> particular
> candidate.  To protect State Committee from such efforts, I would  
> urge us
> not to seat any new State Committee members until after the national
> convention is over (which would mean the meeting after next).  If  
> we do, I
> am sure that the  online meeting which Jamie O'Keefe has said he  
> intends
> to
> continue after July 29,  will be the venue for further mischief.
>
> After the national convention,  each prospective new State Committee
> member
> should present themselves to State Committee individually, in  
> person, to
> say
> why they want to serve on State Committee and to answer any  
> questions that
> State Committee wishes to ask them.  I think that all current  
> members of
> State Committee have done this.
>
> I apologize for adding to the volume of emails that we must wade  
> through.
>
> - John
>
>
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