[statecom] PROPOSAL #A: APPOINT WANDA BOEKE AS FEMALE FACILITATOR OF THE SPECIAL STATE COMMITTEE MEETING

Fri Jun 27 18:14:37 EDT 2008

if this is considered official business and not a discussion then
EVERYBODY SHOULD JUST SHUT UP ! ! ! ! !
and take this to the disgust list ;-]

On Jun 27, 2008, at 5:51 PM, gracegrnrnbw at aol.com wrote:

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>  Gary - you and I need to take courses in how to stay in our  
> place!? Love, Grace
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: gary hicks <gooberthink06 at yahoo.com>
> To: State Committee Official Business <statecom at green-rainbow.org>;  
> Larry Ely <tetrahedrons at crocker.com>
> Sent: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 3:56 pm
> Subject: Re: [statecom] PROPOSAL #A: APPOINT WANDA BOEKE AS FEMALE  
> FACILITATOR OF THE SPECIAL STATE COMMITTEE MEETING
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> so, larry --------------- i am not to have an opinion.
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> donn't you EVER TELL ME TO SHUT UP, i don't care how nicely worded. :)
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> gh
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> --- On Fri, 6/27/08, Larry Ely <tetrahedrons at crocker.com> wrote:
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> From: Larry Ely <tetrahedrons at crocker.com>
> Subject: Re: [statecom] PROPOSAL #A: APPOINT WANDA BOEKE AS FEMALE  
> FACILITATOR
> OF THE SPECIAL STATE COMMITTEE MEETING
> To: gooberthink06 at yahoo.com, "State Committee Official Business"
> <statecom at green-rainbow.org>
> Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 3:01 PM
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> Gary,
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> You are not the facilitator, so even while you are having this text  
> cross
> your transom, you will just have to bite your tongue when you find  
> certain
> opinions bubling up from within your subconscious.
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> Larry
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> At 03:09 PM 6/27/08, you wrote:
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>> larry:
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>> what you just proposed is not within the purview of jamie's role. he
> can
>> only accept and manage proposals, not go to every suspect and non- 
>> suspect,
>> grab them by the collar, and get a guarantee out of them that they
> won't
>> put forth the proposal you fear.
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>> gary
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>> --- On Fri, 6/27/08, Larry Ely <tetrahedrons at crocker.com> wrote:
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>> From: Larry Ely <tetrahedrons at crocker.com>
>> Subject: Re: [statecom] PROPOSAL #A: APPOINT WANDA BOEKE AS FEMALE
>> FACILITATOR OF THE SPECIAL STATE COMMITTEE MEETING
>> To: wjboeke at gmail.com, jokeefe at jamesokeefe.org, "State Committee
> Official
>> Business" <statecom at green-rainbow.org>
>> Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 2:51 PM
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>> Wanda and Jamie,
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>> In reply to Jamie's question to me below, I still have concerns,  
>> but I
>> would be willing to step aside from my concerns on Proposal #A (to  
>> appoint
>> Wanda Boeke as female co-facilitator of the special state committee
>> meeting), provided I hear from each of you (and that you send to  
>> StateCom
>> list as well) that by doing so there will not be a proposal or an  
>> action
>> taken that would retroactively invalidate the vote on Proposal #1,  
>> done
>> under facilitation just by Jamie (with consultation with Dan),  
>> before Wanda
>> volunteered to co-facilitate this special state committee meeting.
>>
>> Larry
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>> Larry,
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>> Both Wanda and I have attempted to address your concern regarding
>> choosing Wanda Boeke as a facilitator for this meeting.  Does your
>> concern remain, and if so, would you be willing to stand aside on  
>> your
>> concern?
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>> Thank you,
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>> Jamie
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>> On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Larry Ely
> <tetrahedrons at crocker.com>
>> wrote:
>>> BALLOT: PROPOSAL #A: APPOINT WANDA BOEKE AS FEMALE FACILITATOR OF
> THE
>>>  SPECIAL STATE COMMITTEE MEETING
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>>>  DELEGATE NAME: Larry Ely
>>>  DELEGATE EMAIL ADDRESS OR PHONE IF NO EMAIL:
> tetrahedrons at crocker.com
>>>  DELEGATE CHOICE: Yes concerns
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>>> I am concerned that the facilitators of this virtual meeting  -
> Jamie
>>> O'Keefe with consultation with Dan Melnechuk - could have up
> their
>> sleeve
>>> the abrogation of the vote on Proposal #1 by virtue of some bylaw
>>> interpretation they might produce on the basis of changing the
> personnel
>>> makeup of the facilitation in midstream.
>>>
>>> We have witnessed a continual abuse of process and an undermining of
>>> constructive, positive energy and efforts throughout the Party by
> Jamie,
>>> Mike, Gary, and Grace (with others inducted later, such as Jim
>> Hammerman),
>>> who have lost votes related to our Delegate Selection Plan  75:25 to
>> 80:20
>>> in StateComs and in AdComs ever since our convention last August,
> yet
>> have
>>> repeatedly brought the issue back up.  The capstone to this was
> Grace and
>>> Dan taking unilateral action (outside of AdCom party-legal process)
> in
>>> going to a lawyer for an opinion on our DSP to counter the opinion
> we had
>>> gotten from the Secretary of the Commonwealth.  Speaking frankly, I
> have
>> no
>>> trust in Jamie, as lieutenant for this obstructive minority
> contingent.
>> So
>>> I have grave concerns about this proposal, even while I admire Wanda
>> Boeke
>>> for her abilities, honesty, fairness, non-partisanship, and
> knowledge of
>>> Green deliberative processes.
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>>> I wish Grace would explain to us her obsession with altering at the
> 11th
>>> hour in proposal #1 the composition of StateCom in order to
> implement the
>>> DSP with its diversity allocations already agreed to in StateCom and
>>> Adcom.  What is the basis of her apparent distrust?
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>> --
>> peace,
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>> Jamie
>> --
>> James O'Keefe
>> www.jamesokeefe.org
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