[statecom] Another opinion

[kenny selcer]

   Since we are quoting the by-laws and interpreting as we see fit:
   11.2    Immediate Recall. Clerks, officers, delegates and other
   representatives of the Green-Rainbow Party shall be recallable.
   Candidates who violate Green-Rainbow Party policy or platform, shall
   lose our endorsement and support.
   11.3    Imperative Mandate. Representatives and delegates of the
   Green-Rainbow Party may express personal opinions, but must act and
   vote within the guidelines agreed on by the Green-Rainbow Party.
   (bold mine)
   Take this as you will. I'm sure all of you know how each of you will
   interpret this. It's predictable.
   Does anyone in this group know what a brain loop is? Look it up.
   We really should move on from this "conversation" or say that the party
   is no longer viable and start over. Really, the years I've been around
   the GRP nothing has gotten done - no real growth, no impact on the
   culture except attracting derision and acrimony. A huge waste of time.
   Well, maybe it's given some people something to do in their lives. That
   counts for something I guess. The by-laws need revision and fleshing
   out. The ways of making decisions should be totally revamped. The web
   site is horrible. No fundraising. No real communication between the
   members or anyone else for that matter. The 10 keys values should be
   mulled over and NOT be used as the gospel and not be open to quoting
   and used for one's own agenda.  That's easy - anyone can do that. Here
   I'll do it: "You can't be against what I'm saying. That means you're
   against diversity." You've taken a look around the world to see what is
   worth fighting over and spending time on, the best you(we) can do is
   GRP presidential delegates? Any outsider would say that at best the GRP
   is dysfunctional. Brain loop...If the best thing to come out of the
   meetings, state com, ad com and these emails, is being able to say that
   the bagels are tasty, then the time has come to do something different.
   Life is too precious to be involved in this, well, whatever it is....
   So far, in the 7 years I've been in the GRP and around it, it's been
   mostly a college type debating club(and not even the same quality!)
   with very few rays of sunshine peeking through. It's been mostly
   playing at politics and mostly people getting in the way of any
   meaningful work and dialogue. It's been mostly monologues, power plays,
   irrelevancies and borderline psychosis. Why do I stay around? I guess I
   stay around for those rays of sunshine which shine through every once
   in awhile. But, I tell you, that Independent status is looking better
   and better....
   Looking for a little perspective in Lexington, Kenny Selcer
   Daniel Melnechuk wrote:

Dear Adcom,

I am not engaged in a complaint against the party. Nor am i signer of
the minority report. That said, the minority report is not a
complaint against the party, it is a minority opinion as allowed by
the bylaws. By attempting to label the minority report as a
complaint, implying it is a legal complaint, is not understanding the
nature of our bylaws in honoring what a minority report is. From the
bylaws:

11 Political Practices
11.4 Minority Opinions. Significant minority opinions within the
Green-Rainbow Party will be recorded and communicated to other
national and regional Green organizations as appropriate.

Declaring that i, or signers of the minority report, may not
participate in decision making in dealing with any issue is not
within your powers as cochairs as per our bylaws.

See you at the meeting later today. Time for bed.

Peace and Justice,
Daniel Melnechuk
Party Treasurer
State Committee Representative, Third Middlesex State Senate District
Procedures, Structures and Meetings Committee
Tech Committee



On May 25, 2008, at 11:17 PM, Merelice wrote:



On 5/25/08, Daniel Melnechuk [1]<isis at isisdesign.com> wrote:

Dear Statecom Reps and Adcom Members,

 Please review the legal opinion (PDF) just obtained from an
election lawyer
about commonwealth law, our delegate selection plan, and
communications with
Michelle Tassinari regarding same. I am not going to extract any
from the
opinion since the entirety is important to read.


Dear AdCom:

Due to the submission of this letter from a lawyer working for two
private clients, offering legal advice and threatening the possibility
of legal action otherwise, we will unfortunately need to devote time
either at Monday's meeting or soon thereafter to consideration of
hiring a lawyer who would be working for the Green-Rainbow Party to
review the letter. It would, of course, be foolish and imprudent to
rely on legal advice from a lawyer working for a client or clients
currently engaged in a complaint against the party (i.e., the minority
report).

Because the two clients ---Grace Ross and Dan Melnechuck --- are also
members of AdCom, it will be necessary for them and any signers of the
complaint known as the minority report to step aside and not
participate in these decisions regarding the necessity and value of
seeking, selecting, and  paying for legal counsel explicitly
representing the party rather than these individuals.

It will also be necessary for AdCom not to entertain any changes to
the current delegate allocations as recommended by CDLC and already
communicated to the candidates until such advice from a lawyer
actually hired by the Party is received.

Sustainably yours,

Nat Fortune
Merelice

GRP co-chairs
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