[statecom] Grace re Fwd: preliminary report on adcom meeting

[Jim Hammerman]

Dear StateCom,
As the member who stood aside at the end in our April 12 decision, my 
understanding was that we were only revising the process, and only in a 
limited way. In particular, the proposal that was approved addressed the 
following: 
1) We were solving the problem of how to deal with the fact that we didn't 
have and were not going to get tallies for write-in votes--and we decided 
to redistribute those to the other candidates in proportion to the votes 
they received rather than assigning them all to "No preference".
2) We were partially solving the problem of how delegates were to behave 
if the people they were to represent at the convention were not in 
communication with them about how to vote--and we decided that they would 
effectively be released after the first vote. 
We also acknowledged that the timing requirements in the plan were not 
going to be met, but affirmed the rest of the process.

I stood aside because I thought that these two changes were important and 
necessary and should move forward. The issues that Grace raises were 
concerns of mine but I didn't think they were being addressed one way or 
the other in the proposal being considered. I might have liked to have my 
concerns addressed in the StateCom meeting--I raised them--but we ran out 
of time to forge a consensus around them and so I respected the work we 
had done to allow the consensus we had reached to be affirmed. More 
importantly, I thought my concerns didn't _need_ to be addressed by making 
changes to the plan through StateCom--they _could_ be addressed through 
the rest of the process we were affirming. 

I hope that helps.
-Jim




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Dear StateCom colleagues,

As one of the co-facilitators of StateCom's April 12 consensus
regarding the GRP delegate selection plan, it appears that I did not
complete my job if Grace's email below is correct. As I recall, it had
been clearly determined both before and during the consensus process,
that StateCom had to make its own policy determination and
interpretation, leaving just the calculation and implementation (not
any interpretation) to CDLC and AdCom. In your view, was there further
interpretation needed? And if so, would it have been more accurate not
to engage in a consensus that did not reflect true feelings?

Sincerely,
Merelice, Co-Chair


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From: Gracegrnrnbw at aol.com <Gracegrnrnbw at aol.com>
Date: May 29, 2008 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: [candidate-development] preliminary report on adcom meeting
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[Please stop emailing to my personal address?]

 As for Elie's rendition, what is here is mostly accurate - major
misrepresentation is that the Statecom meeting did not resolve the two
main interpretive issues - about who qualifies as a "candidate" for
the purposes of the plan (someone not seeking the Green Presidential
Nomination might not be covered in the Green-Rainbow Party
Presidential Nominating Convention Delegate Selection Plan) nor
addressed if candidates release they delegates by definition at the
time they leaving the race or announce they are not part of the
race...

 And the Statecom was only deciding the wording of the Plan, not its
interpretation...

 Yours, Grace
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