The GRP stands for discussion and Green Unity

For Jill Stein and All's Amended Proposal, please see: https://www.green-rainbow.org/2021_spring_unity_proposal_amendment

Proposal sponsor/shepherd: Matt Andrews

Floor manager: Maureen Doyle

Co-sponsors: Elie Yarden, David Keil, Maureen Doyle

Contact info for floor manager: [email protected]

Summary: StateCom opposes expulsions or dis-accreditations over perceived platform differences.

Background: A complaint against the Georgia Green Party is under consideration in the Accreditation Committee.

Text of Proposal:

The Green-Rainbow Party affirms support for the human rights of transgender people. Transgender people are oppressed, and we need to defend them.

The Green-Rainbow Party opposes the petition for punitive action against the Georgia Green Party being considered by the GPUS Accreditation Committee, which is not based on explicit rules, but rather on interpretations of the GPUS platform.  The GPUS platform is an inappropriate standard for membership or the accreditation of state parties.

As alternatives to censuring, suspending, or expelling state parties or individual members on issues of sex and gender we advocate: education, democratic discussion, and debates. These must be free of insults, slurs, threats, and profane language. In the absence of specific evidence, an assumption of good faith among fellow Greens must be maintained. The right of Green-Rainbow Party members to participate in our democratic process, including the right to make proposals and request a vote, shall not be infringed by bureaucratic maneuvers or peer pressure campaigns.

Democratic discussion will be facilitated if participants' race, ethnicity, sex, sexual orientation, self-identification, dis-ability, and good faith disagreements of opinion are respected.

Implementation: The text of this proposal as adopted will be sent by a member of our National Committee delegation to the “NatlComAffairs” list.

Financial Implications: none.

 


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  • Juan Gabriel Sanchez-Sanchez
    commented 2021-03-31 15:45:22 -0400
    I would like to add the paragraph above where it goes into women’s rights that Matt shared. Thabks Matt

    One of our key values is respect for diversity. We are committed to establishing relationships that honor diversity; that support the self-definition and self-determination of all people; that consciously confront the barriers of racism, sexism, homophobia, biphobia, transphobia, class oppression, ageism, and ableism, and the many ways that our culture and laws separate us from working together. We support affirmative action to remedy discrimination, to protect constitutional rights, and to provide equal opportunity under the law.

    Does this all get negated because we support Cesaw? In which case are their other parts of the platform.that contradict themselves.

    Matt would like you to ignore everything him.and other supporters have expressed about trans people and instead take this proposal for face value…what a shame to request members not to research before voting. To tell them.to just read it and vote on it without understanding the implications.
  • Matthew Andrews
    commented 2021-03-31 15:37:18 -0400
    Far from supporting the charges against the Georgia Green Party, the GPUS Platform “calls for U.S. passage of CEDAW, the Convention on the Elimination of all forms of Discrimination Against Women, which was adopted in 1979 by the U.N. General Assembly and ratified by 173 countries.”

    https://www.gp.org/social_justice/#sjCivilRights

    This convention defines discrimination against women as “…any distinction, exclusion, or restriction made on the basis of sex which has the effect or purpose of impairing or nullifying the recognition, enjoyment or exercise by women, irrespective of their marital status, on a basis of equality of men and women, or human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural, civil or any other field.”

    The key words here are “basis of sex.” Women are not defined by gender. The platform consistently refers to both “sex and gender” as categories deserving rights. You might think those who genuinely believe this language is harmful to trans rights would try to amend the GPUS platform before campaigning to expel state parties that adopt similar language.

    Instead we are being told that in order to unite, first we must divide. I guess witch hunts and power politics are more fun than building the party.

    I encourage State Committee members to read the proposal and accept the plain meaning of the words.
  • Elizabeth Humphrey
    commented 2021-03-31 14:29:32 -0400
    Thank you Juan, I am in a celebratory mood today too & am enjoying Trans Visibility Day by educating myself with some of those links you shared with me, I feel it is appropriate to bring a little bit of that celebration here to help us be a little more educated and well rounded in regards to what is being asked of the GRP with this proposal.

    An appropriate snippet from the article linked below.

    In Iceland the women’s rights movement as a whole has been wholly supportive of trans rights for decades. All major feminist and human rights organizations declared their support for the law, and hailed it as an important step in reaching true equality in Iceland. For them, it was obvious. And for trans people like me, it offered a sense of hope for the future – a future where we can all work together to make the lives of those most in danger more positive.
    Þorbjörg Þorvaldsdóttir, the chair of Samtökin ’78 – the national LGBTI organization of Iceland – reflected on just how important this legislation was from a feminist perspective. “This is obviously a great step forward for LGBTQ+ rights, but the new law is also an important feminist milestone. Transphobia – as well as prejudice against LGBTQ+ people in general – is deeply rooted in outdated gender norms and misogyny. The passing of this legislation sends an affirmative message to society that every individual should be able to define and live their gender as they please without prejudice. I believe that this will benefit everyone, cis people and trans people alike.”

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/sep/09/feminism-trans-rights-iceland-uk-movements
  • Juan Gabriel Sanchez-Sanchez
    commented 2021-03-31 14:21:07 -0400
    In honor of trans day of visibility I’m going to go hang out with my friends who are trans and treat them to dinner. I’m done llet’s hope this ends romm
  • Juan Gabriel Sanchez-Sanchez
    commented 2021-03-31 14:17:38 -0400
    Again Gaslighting….if we kick Georgia out who’s next???? It’s fearmongering folks…I’ve exposed it enough and thus will not entertain it further. Also it’s beenade clear by other sponsors and people such as David Rolhde how they feel on this controversial issue and thus it was tainted from the beginning. This was never meant to be about disaccredidation its to send a message of solidarity with Georgia and their stance. Will you honestly state you haven’t been arguing with other delegates on issues specifically related to trans issues, Miss Thompson?

    Trans community is less then 1% of the population is this country and less then 10% worldwide so talk about listening to a minority their you have it
  • Linda Thompson-Lancz
    commented 2021-03-31 14:11:34 -0400
    This proposal is about one issue. Should the Green Party of the U.S. dis-accredit a state party for differences on a highly controversial
    topic that is part of an international discussion between women, trans persons and gay men and lesbians about issues and laws that affect all of them. This discussion is entirely in order, is important and relative to all and should not be shut down by expelling a
    state party with a minority point of view. The GPUS has historically agreed to disagree on many issues. It could be charged that
    any one of these differing points of view like on Syria and Palestine for instance could be charged with the broad brush of being against our 10 key values. We can’t kick out parties without violating grass roots democracy on topics that are still under discussion on the
    left and in the progressive movement without risking making mistakes in platform and policy issues..
    Linda Thompson MA GRP NC Delegate
  • Juan Gabriel Sanchez-Sanchez
    commented 2021-03-31 14:05:50 -0400
    We need to think about the future of the party whether Mr. Keil likes it or not.

    We are at a point in history and where we stand will have real consequences for the Grp and the trans people we claim.to stand with in the future. They are low hanging fruit, easy to target but this is how it always begins.

    It’s not about age it’s about the future…is Mr Keils stance forward thinking? Is it going to place us in a position of strength? Will more young people join the party? Are we staying true to our stand for human rights?

    All these things matter and yes no one should want people with hateful views in the party and Georgia has expressed and doubled down on views that are hateful. This has been expressed not.only.by.those directly.impacted by Georgia’s stance but the women’s Caucus diversity caucus youth Caucusanf 17 other states and chapters…..are they all wrong? The majority of national delegates have also expressed their views to mr Keil.and others for over a year. Om the lost.Again I will remind . Youthat trans people have been called the tranny taliban, misgendered, asked about how they use the bathroom? Yet someone gets called a bigot for siding with these ppl.who.have expressed this and we are the bullies…..

    Is this welcome rhetoric?. Is this what we want to have deep discussions about?
  • Juan Gabriel Sanchez-Sanchez
    commented 2021-03-31 13:49:36 -0400
    Monolithic????

    So what do you suggest Oligarchy where the voice of the few rule. Where somehow your point of view along with with very few ppl that align with those views get to determine what we discuss and what we dont….Their is nothing left to discuss. This is nothing but a empty symbolic gesture that will not change nationals point of view, anyone’s point of view who isn’t all ready in your side, or help the GRP in any way shape or form. All this would do is give. a W to the anti trans bigots who stand with Georgia nd the DNE….and then what do you expect people to come running to join, do you see a large group of funds being donated through our fundraising director, is our presence going to grow?

    The answer is No nothing beneficial but so much to lose. I will continue to post as many times as need be because this is the lives of my friends and family we are trying to discuss and I will not stand for it.
  • David Keil
    commented 2021-03-31 13:36:03 -0400
    The proposal we will vote on tomorrow states, “we oppose the petition for punitive action.” The justification given for punitive action is that member parties are not permitted to express a different view from a certain clause in the Platform valued by the petitioners. The views of members of all ages are of value. The concept of a monolithic party that expels dissenters is not a new one, however.
  • Lois Gagnon
    commented 2021-03-31 13:18:59 -0400
    John, I’m all for respectful dialogue when people are trying to reach the same goal. I don’t think that’s the case here. There seems to be a culture in the GRP to avoid conflict at any cost. That cost can sometimes be very high. I believe this is one of those times. Please take what Juan and Jordan have said to heart. They will inherit this party if we can keep if from being derailed by issues that have already been settled, like human rights for all. Their generation should be leading us into the future, not having to drag us kicking and screaming out of the last century.
  • Jamie Guerin
    commented 2021-03-31 12:28:26 -0400
    Don’t get confused John B. This isn’t an “argument about how we argue”. The whole process of discussion, mediation, attempted conflict resolution has already played out on National and has been going on for over a year. GA refused to heed the advice of Lavender Caucus, WOMEN’S CAUCUS and more and instead they doubled down on their Anti-trans stance. What this is about is whether or not the GRP would like to fiercely defend GA’s hyjacked party’s right to be anti-trans or not.
    Most of us would rather defend trans roghts and see the Green Party members in GA liberated to form a new affiliated out if the clutches of those on an anti-trans crusade.
    Peace!
  • Jamie Guerin
    commented 2021-03-31 12:27:58 -0400
    Don’t get confused John B. This isn’t an “argument about how we argue”. The whole process of discussion, mediation, attempted conflict resolution has already played out on National and has been going on for over a year. GA refused to heed the advice of Lavender Caucus, WOMEN’S CAUCUS and more and instead they doubled down on their Anti-trans stance. What this is about is whether or not the GRP would like to fiercely defend GA’s hyjacked party’s right to be anti-trans or not.
    Most of us would rather defend trans roghts and see the Green Party members in GA liberated to form a new affiliated out if the clutches of those on an anti-trans crusade.
    Peace!
  • Juan Gabriel Sanchez-Sanchez
    commented 2021-03-31 12:25:02 -0400
    Also this discussion has been happening with GA GP for over a year and Georgia doubled down. So no it’s no longer about how we argue instead whether or not we stand with our trans community or a state green chapter that has doubled down, ran people off national, has shared articles calling trans people tranny taliban, calling one of our trqns national members who identifies a s female Mr, joined in asking a memwbr how do they pee, and the list goes on. I’m sorry you can’t see any of this Mr. Blumenstiel but you can’t day you care about the future.of the party yet not acknowledge the blatant anti trans crusade that has been happening and instead attack those who call it out. A person who really cared would abstain if they are bit informed enough.
  • Juan Gabriel Sanchez-Sanchez
    commented 2021-03-31 12:15:11 -0400
    Because human rights are human rights John. The problem.with the party is thay we all want to be intellectuals and have deep discussions. Please tell me where that has gotten us?

    And yes John it’d important to understand intent and motive behind what people do in regards to human rights. I’m sorry that you don’t see the importance in this but that does not make me any less concerned in the livelihood of our party or dissway me from fighting for what I know is right.

    Whether or not you see it you’re taking the side of the oppressor John. We’ve said time and time that human rights aren’t up for discussion and that is a deeply held belief that I and many others hold.

    As you stated, their will be a time wheb you are no longer here and your words today convince me that you plan on taking the party with you. Instead of seeing passion you see pain, instead of seeing us fighting for the oppressed you take it as anger and name calling. Their is nothing I’m going to say that will change your mind. We are on the right side here John and we are the people who will inherit the party. What do you intend to leave us with by entertaining this further when so many of your fellow greens and the majority of national.stand against this?
  • John Blumenstiel
    commented 2021-03-31 11:52:49 -0400
    From my perspective, this discussion has turned more into an argument about how we argue. If we had the ability to address and maintain this very serious issue from a higher level political, philosophical and scientific point of view we may have been much more productive in enhancing one another’s understanding. However, IMO, it has become destructive due to its decent into personal animus. When reasoned argument surrenders to assuming ill intent of another’s motives. resorts to inflammatory charges of alt-right ideology or other shaming epithets, we poison the water of dialogue. We can no longer listen and we head down a path in which we all become lost. A political party can and must have the tools to overcome serious differences while maintaining our ability grow and strengthen our cause.

    The left, today, is fragmented and under increasing pressure by the corporate, repressive and imperialist state. A counterbalancing political movement is an absolute necessity. We do in fact face existential crises. The powers that be want nothing more than a demise of the progressive movement so that they can march forward with their own agenda which threatens
    ALL of our lives, liberties and ability to fulfill our individual and collective human potential.
    This is an all inclusive threat, regardless of age, race, gender, nationality, sexual orientation/sexual self identity or whatever fragmented categories the ruling class want to split us into. Our Green Values counter
    this threat. Not much else does, especially in the realm of the economic and political world.

    It is our responsibility as Greens, part of a global Green movement to continue our efforts for, as we like to say, “People, Planet and Peace” How do we accomplish this?. One is by refusing to run away from, or push away, those with whom we have major differences of understanding.

    This current conflict between two critical and valued constituencies of our Green movement has the potential
    of creating an irreparable schism within this essential Green movement. All parties must step
    back from the brink, consider long term consequences of our actions and not allow fear of the other
    and manipulation by the ruling class to divide and conquer us.

    The extreme right in this country has been plotting and promoting their agenda for at least the past 50 years. They clearly have the upper hand and they are not going away. The only ones in danger of going away are we, the GP, and any semblance of an organized people driven progressive counterbalance. Many of us here today, will not be here 5,10,15 years from now. We hope the party will. We know the right wing, fascistic elements of our country will. If we think that splintering into a multitude of factions, each attending to their own constituency can survive alone, much less succeed in meeting their needs, I personally feel we are sadly delusional.

    We need each other. The county and the world need Green values. We must learn the skills of negotiation and conflict resolution not the nihilism of implosion and self sabotage.
  • Jordan Stewart
    commented 2021-03-31 10:36:17 -0400
    “As alternatives to censuring, suspending, or expelling state parties or individual members on issues of sex and gender we advocate: education, democratic discussion, and debates. These must be free of insults, slurs, threats, and profane language.”

    If in 2021 we still have people in Green leadership who cannot comprehend that trans men are men, trans women are women, and that trans-exclusionary radical feminism is oppression and has zero place in the Green Party, then expelling or censuring them is a no-brainer. If people are truly ignorant, then yes education and informative discussion are merited. Trans validity, however, is not up for debate. Also, hiding behind a façade of “civility” so that one can invalidate trans folx out of one side of their mouth and cry about being called a transphobe out of the other is simply laughable.

    Trans women are women and should be involved in discussions about women-only spaces. ON PERIODT.
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    tagged this with Bad 2021-03-31 10:36:16 -0400
  • Elizabeth Humphrey
    commented 2021-03-31 08:09:21 -0400
    UGH…. * creating
  • Elizabeth Humphrey
    commented 2021-03-31 08:08:32 -0400
    Thank you Juan,
    After reading the article, it is apparent THIS conversation has been going on since 2009 and in a respectful way; in my opinion, unlike the way GAGP and their supporters have inserted this conversation in the GPUS and GRP. No wonder the LGBTQIA+ community has been questioning the motives of those who want to bring about this conversation from the point of view of those who seem to have refused to listen to over a decade long conversation and are under the impression we all here in the GPUS and the GRP need to rehash and beat the dead horse – for lack of a better word (I do not like those kinds of phrases but in this instance it actually seems appropriate)
    What a lovely, inspiring and wholehearted comment Juan, showing your integrity and convictions to do what is createing true unity based on compassion and love – an example of why I joined the GP in the first place.
  • Juan Gabriel Sanchez-Sanchez
    commented 2021-03-31 05:39:45 -0400
    Today is the international transgender day of visibility. I leave you with this article and a quote or chant “Never forget my history, trans people fought for me” The first rock at stonewall was thrown by a black trans women named Marsha P Johnson who along eith Sylvia Rivera and others became advocates for the entire lgbtq+ community. They didn’t leave out the lesbians, gays, intersex etc because they understood as I do that If they come.for one of us they come for all of us and that we must stick together. I will fight for my trans brothers and sisters as they have fought and sacrificed for me and the rest of the Lgbtq community to be provided the same human rights and respect that we take for granted today.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/theconversation.com/amp/trans-day-of-visibility-offers-chance-for-community-to-stand-in-solidarity-and-support-157213
  • David Keil
    commented 2021-03-30 23:11:26 -0400
    We’re at 169 reactions to date. Let’s welcome however many more come in before the presentations and voting on Thursday starting at 7pm Has everyone RSVP’d at https://www.green-rainbow.org/2021_spring_statecomm_rsvp? Let’s especially welcome contributions here by any who haven’t commented yet. This is also a time for exchanging questions about the proposal.
  • Jamie Guerin
    commented 2021-03-30 21:52:22 -0400
    I just want to say that I hope y’all keep that same energy when trans rights are on the chopping block (again) here in Massachusetts (please actually READ this link. https://www.green-rainbow.org/yes_on_question_3_2018 ) like they are right this very moment in several Southern states (just one example https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/arkansas-governor-signs-bill-allowing-medical-workers-to-refuse-treatment-to-lgbtq-people). I hope the sponsors of this proposal will be defending trans rights as fiercely, as obsessively, and as relentless as some of them are attacking them on national and as fiercely as they are defending the hyjacked GAGP’s right to destroy them. Something tells me they won’t be. I am no fortune teller , but I do foresee that Pioneer Valley Chapter and most likely Central Mass will be standing on the right side of history.
    You want to talk about unity? Around 90% of the party is pretty firmly and solidly united around this issue as is the lavender caucus, the women’s caucus, the Diversity Commitee, the Youth caucus 17 state and locals. I guess they are all as Linda would say “young and inexperienced” though, right?. Also, That’s some “faction”. I’m super-impressed.
    Please stand on the right side of history GRP.
    in service and solidarity,
    Jamie Guerin
  • Richard Purcell
    commented 2021-03-30 20:41:59 -0400
    David R
    I listened to both sides of this issue, I heard 1st hand GAGP claim a falsehood regarding children and gender blockers. The Lavender Caucus was up front and truthful. I worked on the front lines at Bay State Medical Center in Springfield Massachusetts this Pandenmic is NO HOAX, the only conspiracy is the thought process you use to describe anything that does not fit your Psychiatric defiance of all things actual and real. I will the leave the GRP if this proposal passes so that you and your band of renegade wordsmiths can continue to type meaningless words, but will I continue to be on the streets doing my Activist role without the GRP Brand and be very happy not listening to worthless words of udder nonsense that are simply words without meaningful humane results.
    FULLY VACCINATED
    Rick Purcell
    Co Chair
    PVGRP
  • Jamie Guerin
    commented 2021-03-30 18:33:01 -0400
    My health is not even fully recovered from my 2018 statewide run. That was not fun for me. That was a sacrifice I made and it was an act of service. Juan and I both got over the 3% threshold to secure our 2020 ballot line and the Pioneer Valley chapter not only put up all the candidates, but collected more than HALF of the signatures needed to get our slate on the ballot. Our presense is consistent in our community and like Elizabeth said we WILL continue our work regardless of what happens. If this proposal passes we will not be able to continue our work as a part of the GRP. I put my heart and soul, my energy, my time into growing the GRP. I put my health and name and reputation on the line as a candidate for this party. You bet I am invested in the vitality of this party and in having it grow, evolve, and thrive. But…No, I do not wish to be associated with a party that goes on record taking
    a backwards anti-trans stance due to a proposal that will only be a symbolic gesture as our delegates will vote they way they wish as we have already and and that will serve as nothing but putting the power of our state party behind David Keil’ s personal anti-trans crusade and behind his very tiny DNE faction on National and in the other orgs he is bringing this to. I can’t be a part of a party that is unsafe for my community, specifically my trans siblings. I and others reserve that right and reserve the right to make this very clear. Let ot be know (again) We are and have always been FULLY TRANSPARENT in word and in deed unlike the delegates who kept us in the dark regarding what was really happening on National to empower their own personal agenda. I will ask again for the sponsors to end this madness and to withdraw this very unpopular proposal. If not, you can count on me to put my heart amd soul, energy, time, health, name, and reputation into beating it and to working to make this a party that holds true to its values and a party that I am proud to be a part of.
    Ps. I had relatives die to COVID19 This is not as David Rolde states a “hoax pandemic”
  • Elizabeth Humphrey
    commented 2021-03-30 18:04:19 -0400
    Darn auto correct… *seceding – not succeeding
  • Elizabeth Humphrey
    commented 2021-03-30 17:48:20 -0400
    David I did not accuse in my comments either.

    I said: we hear from you the slanted, manipulation of facts in order to support your false claims & I said: Please stop belittling our convictions of our values and twisting them to support your narrative of bullying, “name calling” and “purge”.

    Our chapter discussion about succeeding was NOT a discussion about how we would affect the vote.

    Our discussion was about whether or not we all would want our names and political/social reputations to be associated with a state party that stood in solidarity with, and defense of, another state party within the GPUS federation that conflicted with GPUS, GRP and our own core values, the platform we believe in and our membership/chapter commitments to the GRP/GPUS.

    We discussed the implications and consequences to our integrity and ability to be trusted in our community, and coalition work we are deeply dedicated to that requires a high level of trust and integrity.

    Not to mention two of our chapter members hold positions within their local government which also requires a high level of integrity and trust.

    We discussed the lose our party has already felt due to other GPUS states’ National Committee delegates retreating from the NC back to their state parties, leaving GPUS caucuses and committees, or leaving the GPUS altogether and GRP members announcing leaving the state party in order to escape this toxic discussion you and the sponsors of this proposal are insisting our party be held hostage to partake in.

    TO BE CLEAR, those of us that had these serious discussions to succeed, will not stand in the way of any of our chapter members that change their minds and want to either form their own GRP chapter or keep the PVC after we leave BUT

    LET IT BE KNOWN, if we are forced to leave the GRP, this does not mean we will be stopping our work and deep dedication to our local communities or not work with individual GRP members we have formed good respectful working relationships with such as with the Central MA Chapter coalition work or even the GPUS if it is not also associated with these conflicts to our values and conscience.

    The active members that have come to this difficult decision, will be our own Eco-socialist Pioneer Valley political/activist group in order to continue our community and coalition work with integrity and trustworthiness.
  • David Rolde
    commented 2021-03-30 17:02:12 -0400
    I think it is very important for GRP Statecom to adopt this proposal. It would be very wrong to kick the Georgia Green Party out of the GPUS over this issue. The members of the Georgia Green Party are clearly adhering to the Green Ten Key Values. The platform amendment at the Georgia Green Party state convention last year was clearly motivated by a concern for the protection of sex-based rights for women, and a concern about potentially harmful medical interventions on children. They were clearly not motivated by any kind of hatred for transgender people. In their platform decision Georgia Green Party called for the protection of the rights of transgender people as well as for the protection of women’s sex-based rights. I am not saying that I agree with the Georgia Green Party resolution as worded, or that MA GRP should take a similar position. I am saying that it is wrong to expel Green Party bodies or individuals who take such a position based on legitimate concerns that are in line with the key values. Furthermore, the Georgia Green Party platform, on this issue (I haven’t read their entire platform), does not contradict the GPUS Platform which has a long section on Women’s Rights that is clearly based on sex-based rights. Even if a state party were to actually take a position in contradiction to the GPUS Platform, that would be ok and not grounds for expulsion, but Georgia Green Party have not even contradicted the national platform.

    The conflation of gender-based rights and sex-based rights, the erasure of biological sex as a concept, and the collapse of the concepts of male and female into a non-biological concept of gender, is a new cultural phenomenon that I first encountered about 15 years ago. Before the advent of this cultural phenomenon, almost everyone considered “woman” to be a sex-based category. There was already a big movement to stop the oppression of people who did not conform to the gender of their sex. But there was not a contradiction of gender-based rights over sex-based women’s rights. This contradiction is new. I know hundreds of Green Party activists, feminists, other progressive activists, and people from various cultures and sub-cultures and age cohorts on both sides of this issue and indeed all with their own nuanced opinions. It is a rapid and unstable cultural change. There are working class people in the U.S. with various opinions. A person’s opinion on this issue does not necessarily correlate with their opinion on any other political issue. The Green Party is a grassroots large-tent party. State Green Parties and the GPUS may take a position on gender-based rights and sex-based rights, but if we start kicking out state Green Parties or other GP formations or individuals over how they feel about this issue, then we will be dividing the population of people who need to stand up against corporate tyranny.

    This gender/sex issue is not the most important issue to me. The most important issue now is to challenge the narrative around the fake pandemic, and the mass injections of experimental unapproved gene-therapy drugs, and the totalitarian erasure of all civil liberties that happened last year and that is potentially being carried forward with “vaccine passports”. The sponsors of this proposal that I am commenting on do not all agree on this most important issue. David Keil, and I assume Matt Andrews as well, support medical tyranny around the hoax pandemic. Whereas Maureen is a member of my Greens Against Covid Repression group, and Elie has expressed opposition to the tyranny too.
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  • Juan Gabriel Sanchez-Sanchez
    commented 2021-03-30 16:15:17 -0400
    Conscience* srry I type on my phone so many typos